And we shouldn't allow this concept to go unchallenged here on Lemmy.
Commenting on an active post is not brigading
Posting a link to something is not brigading
Commenting on something you were linked to is not brigading
The only thing that might be brigading, but isn't because it isn't a real thing, is someone explicitly going, "Hey everyone, go here and harass this person"
It's all fine and good that we have some new rules to keep the peace with other instances but we must fight against 
It seems to me that instance has a very evident and festering
problem, which is incredibly strange for what is supposed to be a pro-trans instance.
They're being tone policed down to
levels, but they're still spreading the same hateful talking points that prevents the free expression that the admin team supposedly desires.
This is my first time seeing it first hand but it's so obvious and transparent that their liberal well intentioned inclusiveness has already backfired horrifically. When hexbear users confront these tone-adjusted fascists and question their hateful anti-left stance (something the mods and admin team should be doing but lack the spine) they cry and demand defed because their views absolutely can not stand up to any sort of serious analysis.
I will say I would not have seen this without federation. It genuinely makes me appreciate the amazing community thats been cultivated here because it's not easy to challenge, and remove, a polite abuser standing next to you.
If anyone is communicating with their admin team, I think they should be told to wake up because it will only get worse before their community is co-opted and they're the ones being "tolerated." I am being constantly reminded of this https://youtu.be/P55t6eryY3g?t=677
The fact that calling it out plays in to the fascists hands is pretty depressing too.
I wanted to reiterate what Melonius said about appreciating the hard work you and the other mods do. You’ve made this such an amazing space and seeing the broader fediverse really brought it home.
Just to clarify what I meant, I personally don't mind remaining federated but I'm still new here. I think fascists should absolutely be challenged, argued with, and shut down, but it's not even something I'm totally comfortable with doing myself yet.
I'm condescending because it's hard to express, but I feel sad for them because I can't tell if their admin team has been bullied in to submission by that one community or something else. It's condescending of me because their instance has a ton of history and I can't possibly comprehend it in the couple of days we've been federated. I think all the admin posts I've read have been fairly reasonable but are coming from a passive and overly tolerant lib mindset. I still remember being there (still am really) and it's a horrible feeling.
Anyways, thanks for everything you all do!
The only option, imo. If we're talking about arguing in good faith, it's no use with fascists. Bad faith is their whole point.
I agree, but if we're on other instances I only mean to correct their bigotry and false statements so others see that they're wrong.
Ideally they'd be banned already and there's nothing to respond to.
Can I ask what it means for us to have us defeded and block vs allow them?
I thought if either party blocked the other it was the same as both blocking one another?
Just to make sure I understand, if they blocked and we left the allow list as is, that would also be the case, right?
Is it just so the other instance can't unilaterally turn federation on and off?
I believe that even if another instance blocked us, if that instance was on our allow list, we coukd still receive updates about that instance from third party servers which include that info in their server-to-server messages (this protocol is the core of how federation works). But I haven’t worked on Lemmy enough to know for sure. That logic can vary between ActivityPub implementations and is prone to subtle nuances in behavior.
This dynamic is so frustrating. Politeness is such a bad shorthand for kindness.