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I'll start, I missed the outdoor cats struggle session so i don't know what its deal was except a vague idea that outdoor cats were bad, so I've let my two cats stay being outdoor cats because I feel bad locking them inside, like I want to give them some experience of freedom to go where they please so they can live more fulfilling lives

Edit: also kruschev is imo a lot better than most hexbear users give him credit for

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[–] beef_curds@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Because actually using a wet cloth to scrub something gets it cleaner than just putting soap on it then rinsing. If you think you're doing a good job scrubbing with your fingers, you aren't getting nearly as much coverage as you'd get in half the time with a rag.

also exfoliation.

[–] judgeholden@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

using your hands is fine, how dirty are you people that you need to sand your body? I find that everyone who uses a washcloth type of thing uses it several times and not only does it makes the bathroom smell repulsive, but they're also wiping themselves with a bacteria rag

[–] beef_curds@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There you go. That's the spirit. Now we got the struggle sesh.

wiping themselves with a bacteria rag

Gonna blow your mind here: you wash them.

[–] judgeholden@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if you do it after every use, it's probably fine. people who I've seen use them don't tend to do that shrug-outta-hecks

[–] beef_curds@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Some people rinse/wring. I hang mine to dry in the shower and just toss it in a bucket the next day to wash with the towels.

Rags are like $10 for a dozen, so like, as long as you're doing laundry regularly fry , you should be fine.

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Narrator voice: He was not doing laundry regularly.

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Hmm, people seem to have one each here. I don't think I see anyone with multiple wash clothes floating around.

[–] Zoift@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Its not a matter of abrasion or exfoliation, so much as friction. Soap helps but the primary cleaning mechanism in any shower or bath is manually scrubbing dirt particles away. A washcloth or loofah is objectively better than your hands or a raw bar of soap.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Objectively better at doing what? What goal are you trying to achieve? Does it reduce rates of skin infection? Improve skin health? Make you live longer? Make you happier? It really sounds like conformity to an arbitrary cultural perception of "cleanness" that isn't related to any actual health or sanitary issues, but rather, dare I say, artificially created by loofah companies to sell more loofahs (which, as biological planet material, are subject to decay and harboring bacteria!)

[–] Zoift@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Objectively better at doing what?

Removing dirt

What goal are you trying to achieve?

Clean balls

Does it reduce rates of skin infection? Improve skin health? Make you live longer? Make you happier?

Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, and also you can wear it as a hat.

It really sounds like conformity to an arbitrary cultural perception of "cleanness" that isn't related to any actual health or sanitary issues.

I bet you dont use a bidet either.

but rather, dare I say, artificially created by loofah companies to sell more loofahs

I grew mine guerilla gardening in the sump pond a condemned ampartment complex. The complex is condemned because i released native bedbugs and sprayed community-sourced MRSA on the doorhandles in an act of anti-landlord praxis. The loofa gourds are not native however, and have started choking out the grasses of the local dogpark. This is a double blow against DSA PMC gentrification and i am a better leftist than you. I will send you loofa seeds by COD mail. You will grow them. You do not have a choice in this.

which, as biological planet material, are subject to decay and harboring bacteria!

I bet you're not composting your drain-hair either.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay guerilla loofahs is cool as hell. I will start washing my balls now in honor of your good works.

rat-salute-2

[–] Zoift@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago
[–] Erika2rsis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you for delighting us with another example of Hexbear Hygiene Advice™

[–] beef_curds@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Trying to clean up the left, one drum circle at a time.

[–] ikilledtheradiostar@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] TrudeauCastroson@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Loofas get gross quickly. Leaving a wet thing in your shower is inviting bacteria and mold that you'll keep scrubbing everywhere.

Washcloth way more hygienic. If you want it to be as gross as a loofah don't even bother replacing it.

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If you rinse, wring out, and hang the loofa it dries oit.

PS in the spirit of this thread, I'll declare that your opinion makes you somehow anti-black.

[–] nocages@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I put up one of those sticky hooks near a window just for this purpose! Never had a loofah get gross on me. I am using the gourd type, too.

[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No I swear to god it's a yt people thing to not use wash clothes.

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I upvoted but I don't know what yt means.

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Wash...cloth?

Like a cloth you use for washing?

Who has ever heard of such a thing?

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

How you wash and where and in what manner is very much a culture thing and varies enormously. Washing legs is one that used to pop up a lot on reddit, with half the thread being like "Wash what? there's nothing on my legs?" and the other half denouncing them as horrible slime monsters who should be held down and scrubbed for their own good.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

I'll declare that your opinion makes you somehow anti-black.

Now we're making progress!

[–] SootyChimney@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

These are baseless assertions - Your skin is covered in a layer of oils and skin that will capture your grime, and will naturally come off with hands and soap in running warm water. Unless you're regularly covered in like glue or you're showering every hour then using your hands will absolutely work to the same efficacy.

Exfoliation happens naturally, it does not need artificially scrubbing and materials unless you have a medical condition. My own baseless assertion is that scrubbing with a sponge or rag will remove more oils or skin than you should and instead expose and dry out your skin, making it worse.

[–] beef_curds@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like to keep my assertions baseless, as it affords me more agility.

[–] SootyChimney@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

You'll need that agility to catch all the gross wet rags you're dropping.

spoilerAm I struggling right?

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago