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[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The problem is not the conservatives tbh, more the actual nazis. Couldn't worry much about the CDU and their religious nutjob sub-faction the CSU right now, they're a known problem that is largely inept due to their own inability to effect change since not doing so is essentially their primary advertisement for themselves.

[–] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The issue with the CDU/CSU is that they already made steps towards the AFD after the party passed 20%. Remember, the conservatives in the Weimar Republic supported the Nazis, not because they liked them, but because they thought they could puppeteer them, get rid of the communists and socialists and then zhrowing them away and come out on top.

I am afraid that the current conservatives have similair thoughts when it comes to the AFD.

[–] Rendh@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course they do. Conservatives aren't center as they claim. They are right wing. So their natural friends are other enemies of freedom and democracy.

[–] Agamemnon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That... is a very skewed way of looking at reality.

[–] Rendh@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it? Or maybe if you look at conservative parties all over world it's the same shit everywhere. They're just right wingers pretending they are not

[–] Agamemnon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I looked and the common pattern I see is that conservative parties are actually several smaller parties stacked in a trenchcoat, pretending to have a common direction, but too scared of adressing inner conflict. They still hope they can continue to uphold a facade of unity by pandering to the rightwingers.

It's not very effective. But I see that as a result of group-psychology and basic human incompetence, not as explicitly agreeing with fascist values.

[–] zeropublix@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As far as I understand it the EU laws are also an issue, right ? And those won’t be easy to bypass in the long run, right?

[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

They will be bypassed, if more countries join the push

[–] duviobaz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

This legalization is supposed to come in two steps. This first step here already found a very clever way to tip-toe around the EU laws.