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Pro-Life, Huh?... (lemmy.world)
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[-] Rukmer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I agree, I'm always really annoyed to see these kinds of memes. I feel like all the "but what about foster kids" or "what about refugees"? as literal whataboutism arguments against pro-life ideology is entirely unproductive. Every single foster parent I know is religious and specifically Christian (and I know quite a few because I'm trying to get into fostering myself). It's not because they're better people, but we need to stop acting like all religious people are bigoted and conservative. Because of my religious upbringing, I'm nervous around religious people. I'm nervous they'll treat us badly because we're gay, or scare my child who already has anxiety the same way they did to me, or bully my kid because he wears girl clothes, etc. And it's good to be cautious, but I've been learning a lot of religious people are not bigoted and a lot of them are not even conservative. A lot of them foster and they volunteer to help sick kids, in fact that's the only place I've been meeting them.

Also, not all pro-life people are religious. Abortion used to be a nuanced subject. Now it seems so much more divisive, but there are still a lot of left learning and nonreligious people who don't like high abortion rate, or don't like abortion outside of medical emergencies. Even one of my very best friends whom I've known for 10 years (who is gay and atheist and extremely liberal) recently said, very quietly, "I don't really think it's a good option outside of medical necessity, but I try not to speak about women's issues because it's not my place." People are afraid to stray from their "side" too loudly. I just wish people could have a real conversation without feeling like they'll get in trouble with their own people for not being extreme enough, for seeing the nuance in a complicated subject.

I think the people simply saying "you can't because God said no" are stupid, but most people have actual reasons. Likewise, the people who just make these dumb memes instead of giving any facts or insight are also not contributing. There's an actual interesting and import discussion to have about the right to live, right to terminate, etc. but it's like no one is able to talk about the actual topic, just "those guys think a bad thing and we hate them." And we absolutely need to be doing more to help enslaved children, refugees, orphans, etc.

this post was submitted on 14 Aug 2023
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