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[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

provide for their families

Not a problem in a socialist country, the CPC is not stupid, they will make sure adequate social protections are in place for the people who represent the sickle in the hammer and sickle symbol.

Bernie, the man you support, would agree with this decision, to fight hunger and ensure food security for the citizenry.

[–] Bernie2028@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

China is socialist in name only.

[–] MCU_H8ER2@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Bernie2028@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] MCU_H8ER2@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago

Do some reflection.

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Their mode of production is called a "socialist market economy". The leadership uses socialist theory to guide their decisions on running the country. Why would this not be socialism?

[–] Bernie2028@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Oh well if they say their production is socialist guided then they're tooootally socialist! Just ignore the privately owned factories paying people $2 a day and the fact billionaires still exist.

[–] citrussy_capybara@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The factories aren’t privately owned, they’re owned by the country and rented by private companies. Stop talking. You don’t know shit. Start reading and educating yourself instead of spreading US state department propaganda.

[–] Bernie2028@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So, what you're saying is they're not owned collectively by the workers? Tell me again why independent unions are illegal in China.

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is grasping at straws to find justifications for hating china as much as the state dept. tells you to while telling yourself you're a leftist. I'll report you to Bernie for this.

[–] Bernie2028@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Owned by the state and rented by private corps" sounds like state capitalism to me. Come back to me when workers own any means of production.

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Owned by the state

Come back to me when workers own any means of production.

troll

[–] Bernie2028@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Xi Jinping owning everything doesn't mean the workers own anything.

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Could I have a source that says Xi Jinping personally has legal rights of ownership over every single one of the over 9000 businesses in China? What an insane level of grindset if he does.

[–] Bernie2028@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

He's the Supreme Leader smart guy, if he can execute some billionaires he can eradicate all billionairism, but he won't. Btw with China's purchasing power parity being 4x the US (1 USD in America will get you as far as 4 USD in China), that means 250+ millionaires technically have the same power as US billionaires, so basically there's way more billionaires than we even thought by US standards

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

It came to me in a dream

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if he can execute some billionaires he can eradicate all billionairism

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! M-MUH BILLIONAIRISM GOOD ONE!!

[–] aFairlyLargeCat@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

I don’t know why anyone is still bothering to reply to this very obvious CIA bot.

fedposting

[–] citrussy_capybara@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

So what you’re saying is you still don’t know shit.

information on collective ownershipHaha, you’re being collectively owned!
pigpoop

[–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Independent unions are illegal in China because in the USSR the were legal. The CIA used them to cause problems and harm not only the workers they represent but everyone. In that the government plays a role in most business there is a direct path for worker democracy. We can see this because every year China fixes lots of thr taking points people use against it and then the US government has to make up new ones.

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

Socialism is a mode of production that is in part defined by class war between the elites and the people, with the state being on the side of the people (as shown by their desire to bolster food security). In our current globalized world, China is not in a position to bring about full communism, liquidating all the elite, without incurring apocalyptic economic punishment from Western capitalists.

China is a country with flaws, but a country doesn't need to have achieved a fully functional planned economy to be called socialist, as the label is contingent on the ideology that the state employs in the governance of their country.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just ignore the privately owned factories paying people $2 a day

Chinese average labor costs were $6.5 per hour in 2020.