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[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree there's a human right to food.

The question is, why is the burden of labor to provide human rights placed on the shoulders of just a few, while others are free to pursue profit?

Let's say that YOU were forced to grow crops to provide food for me, while I grow crops to enrich myself, and you remain in poverty despite working harder. Does that seem fair?

[–] Redcat@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I agree there's a human right to not dying to climate change.

The question is, why is the burden of following environmental regulation on the shoulders of just a few, like oil companies?

Seriously, it's as if you have this conception that farming and the food industry is run like an MMO. It's all very regulated and subsidized, everywhere, in every single country, with national security and sustainability in mind. Not just environmental sustainability either but financial as well. The only countries that allow their agricultural industry to turn into cash crops are places like Iraq and or the remaining French Colonies in West Africa, places that were invaded and then reformulated entirely to fulfill the economic needs of the US and Europe, respectively.

China is interested in delivering rising living standards to it's peoples. Which is why they've achieved it. Which is why they are known for supporting their farmers really fucking hard with technical and financial aid. If all China wanted to do was chase dollars, they'd still be poorer than most countries in Africa. Where people are 'free' to pursue dollars selling crops to Americans so that they can pay their debts to those same Americans, in return for further loans.

[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your analogy of agriculture to fossile fuel energy is very disingenuous and stupid.

Humans don't have the option to stop growing food. Humans have the option to stop burning fossile fuels.

Which is why they are known for supporting their farmers really fucking hard with technical and financial aid.

Known to who? Wealth inequality in China is almost as wide as the US, and globally still behind about 60 other countries.

[–] Redcat@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Known to who?

Anybody's who's read about the subject, really. The Chinese are not alone in the sheer amount of state support it gives to it's agriculture, as that's par for the course. However one well known feature of the post revolutionary situation in China is somewhat reminiscent of France. Only for different reasons. Landownership is not consolidated. On the contrary, plots are very small. So part of industrial policy is China is making sure small farmers are as productive as possible, with technical and financial aid to implement everything from solar panels to new supply lines.

Wealth inequality

What does that have to do with State support to farmers?

Do you have a little card next to you titled 'slogans to spam at leftists' or are you a chatbot?

Humans don't have the option to stop growing food.

Ah, I see. You don't live in one of those countries that are both major food exporters and also stricken with constant famine, right? You live in one of those food importers in the International Community, right? I wonder why Iraq now needs to import food while mostly exporting pasta to the USA. Impossible, I know. Profit seeking shouldn't fuck up entire countries. And yet here we are, in reality.