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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Farmers lie. Animal products are wasteful, toxic, and environmentally damaging. Eat fucking plants.

[–] mycatiskai@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

Plants need poop to grow, your plants need fish poop.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I encourage you to read about aquaponics.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

How does aquaponics solve the profit-motivated cruelty and violence against thinking, feeling creatures?

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

It doesn't necessarily, but you'll notice you mentioned nothing about animal cruelty in the post I responded to. Moreover, aquaponics can be done with ornamental fish.

Don't get upset with other people if your message isn't clear, or correct.

[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

I wish we could eat the vegans. Most of you are dumber and more irritating that fish, and it'd reduce your carbon footprint being dead.

[–] antizero99@lemmynsfw.com -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People also lie. Meat is not toxic it's actually the most efficient source of nutrients versus seeking out multiple sources and having to supplement. That's what they don't tell you, you can't easily get everything you need on a vegan diet, vegetarian with it's allowance for cheese, sour cream, butter, etc is a bit easier but if you go full vegan it becomes extremely difficult to stay healthy.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Meat is not toxic it’s actually the most efficient source of nutrients versus seeking out multiple sources and having to supplement.

You are factually incorrect. Meat does contain nutrients, but it also universally contains toxins harmful to human health. The more meat you eat, the sooner you die and the more diseases you experience. All the leading causes of death in North America are caused or intensified by consuming meat: heart disease, cancer, stroke, and diabetes. Heart disease can be COMPLETELY ELIMINATED through diet, one which contains no meat. Diabetes can be REVERSED by diet, one which contains no meat. And you're on here arguing that the DIRECT CAUSE OF THE LEADING FORMS OF DEATH are healthy.

The only supplements people are recommended to take on a 100% plant diet are B12 and D. You would be interested to know, however, that in testing, vegans are found to have a higher level of B12 in their system than the general population, who are chronically deficient in B12 and should ALSO be taking a supplement.

B12 does not come from animals. Animals cannot produce B12 any more than we can. Animals on a farm get their B12 from injections and pills. So you're still taking the fucking supplement, you're just wrapping it in a piece of meat like a fussy child.

Meat eaters also frequently need to take D supplements. Have you ever even had your blood tested for nutrition markers? You could be deficient yourself.

But you know, the facts don't matter. This is just a lie people repeat to themselves to distract themselves from the cruelty and violence against intelligent creatures. It's really painful to try and wrap your head around that, and it's much easier to just lie to yourself.

cheese, sour cream, butter

All cause heart disease, THE LEADING FORM OF DEATH OF EVERY FUCKING PERSON YOU KNOW. You PROBABLY know several dead people that eating this shit has ALREADY KILLED.

[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hey bro, we're evil for eating a normal diet. Taste pleasure is evil. Ya, the dumbest phrase ever, ultimate insult dude, got you.

We should just go Thanos and kill half the people. That would fix everything, and is just as likely as getting everyone to go vegan anytime soon.

[–] RealWrastling@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No thanks, meat is fucking delicious.

[–] antizero99@lemmynsfw.com -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's also not toxic and extremely healthy for you. A high protein diet with fat to satiety is literally the healthiest way to eat. Anyone else reading this should look into keto and it's family of diets like carnivore and others. Find what works for you and you'll find yourself healthier and happier.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is carnism; a set of psychological defense mechanisms that work to keep you in a state of denial and delusion. You're repeating transparently false nonsense for your own emotional reasons. You are psychologically unwilling to emotionally process the cruelty and violence that you commit, so you must do this instead.