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[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 237 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (32 children)

Jesus fucking christ. If you do this, and exploit Ukraine while they are literally under the gun, the US will be dead to the rest of the western world.

I cannot express how hard you can go fuck yourselves.

The literal rest of my life will be spent trying to fuck over America and Americans. Fuck you, you selfish, coward, pieces of shit.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Well, I certainly apologize. I know that's pretty worthless.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 6 hours ago

The worst thing about all of this is you have guns, you just can't aim for shit.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 7 hours ago

Don't apologize, organize.

[–] Nima@leminal.space 29 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

oh my apologies! I'll personally see to stopping it myself.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Come on doc, you've gotta help us, we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!

[–] Nima@leminal.space 16 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

what? you want more? i can turn the socialized healthcare lever on as well. there it is! right there.

its so simple!

any other changes you think you want? i can grab a magic wand, if that will make you feel better.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Oh yes of course, the whole world has of course been watching the mass protests and general strike being organized with baited breath, oh wait.

[–] Nima@leminal.space 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

what do you think I can do personally? on some level that would satisfy you?

what would you do in my situation? just one person.

tell us, mighty canadian of war! one who knows all answers! who rights all wrongs with his witless rage!

oh won't the angry canadian man save us with his wisdom??

[–] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Vote. In every election. In the primaries. The city you live in. The school council. And convince everyone you know to vote, too. Protest. Strike. Make people you know angry about what's happening so they are motivated to stir shit up. You still can change things, but you are right: you can't do it alone. So find as many people you can who can do it with you. Time is running out.

[–] Nima@leminal.space 2 points 6 hours ago

you're saying things I already know. but I appreciate your dedication! and agree with your sentiment.

American here: hard agree. This is all insane, but it’s predictable, and they told us about it ahead of time, and people still fucking voted for it. We shat the bed, now we must lie in it.

I’m probably gonna try to leave the country and renounce my citizenship at some point, particularly if the next few months are as catastrophic as I think they’ll be.

[–] overload@sopuli.xyz 131 points 1 day ago (9 children)

I think a global boycott on US-made goods + services is necessary. Trump can only do this because the US is such a powerhouse.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 4 points 11 hours ago

As an American, I'd like the boycott to be more targeted. But yes, every company that licks the boots of this obviously fascist regime should see no more sales. I don't have a full list, but it includes at least Meta, Alphabet (Google), and Amazon.

[–] Zeoic@lemmy.world 21 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

That is already happening in Canada. Those imperialists threatening annexation was finally what brought us Canadians together on something lol

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 7 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Has there been any progress on dropping tarrifs between provinces?

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 6 points 13 hours ago

Ottawa announced yesterday that they'll be dropping more than half of federal internal trade barriers.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 6 points 19 hours ago

I think I heard something about easing trade barriers between Ontario and I think it was either Saskatchewan or Manitoba.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The US is only such a powerhouse, because they generally have the support of their allies. That makes it the unparalleled biggest economic block in the world.
But without their allies, USA isn't that much stronger than China economically. And USA wouldn't be nearly the powerhouse they've gotten used to be.

So China just has to look on and do nothing, while USA is losing their world dominance quickly.

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Would be nice to see global sanctions against the US. Not realistic, but I hope all countries are moving towards significantly reducing American reliance. It'll be a slow process, but needs to be done.

[–] Vipsu@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Honestly sanctions agains companies like these that can be weaponized politically sounds very reasonable.

They are national security threat in the true meaning of the word.

[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

I've been looking at getting solar installed, and been talking to a few different companies for quotes. One place only supplies PowerWall batteries, and I said to the sales rep that I wasn't really interested in buying anything from Tesla and his face made it pretty clear that that was the answer he'd been getting a lot recently

[–] a887dcd7a@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago

Yea, buyFromEU is already getting traction. More intense on reddit and a little bit on https://feddit.org/c/buyFromEU

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 11 points 23 hours ago

Just relax and let trump continue destroying the USA. He’s doing putin’s work and fucking us all, Europeans and Americans alike.

[–] asap@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

I moved all my cloud computing from DO and Vultr to European owned options. It's a small thing, but it's about the only thing that I had been purchasing from the USA.

We don't really make anything though, aside from software I guess.

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[–] hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 34 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

I was planning a holiday in the US this or next year, but decided not to proceed with it. I’d rather go anywhere else now really. Currently for me Russia = India = China = North Korea = USA now. Plenty of european countries I’d rather throw my money at.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 10 points 15 hours ago

Come visit us in Canada! It's beautiful here. Better come fast before Trump decides to invade us for our oil and minerals though. I expect it'll be much less beautiful after that, and we won't have as much time to spend with you while waging a guerilla resistance.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago

The fuck did we... Oh right, Modi.

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[–] Mister_Feeny@fedia.io 34 points 1 day ago (10 children)

The literal rest of my life will be spent trying to fuck over America and Americans.

As an American, I'd just like to say we absolutely deserve this.

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.ml 3 points 16 hours ago

Sure, but does the rest of the world?

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[–] marv99@feddit.org 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I understand your feelings, and I share them. Let's stay strong and united, refusing to let fear or hatred divide us. Remember, we have allies in America who stand against extremism and are working tirelessly to promote justice and equality. There is a growing movement of brave activists, judges, and everyday Americans who are standing up against these challenges. It's crucial that we support them and let them know they are not alone. Together we are stronger.

You can find an overview of the current resistance in yesterday's post on Substack: https://robertreich.substack.com/p/ten-reasons-for-optimism

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 17 points 20 hours ago

As someone who didn’t vote for the Cheeto Nazi, thank you for the nuance.

That said, comment OP and anyone reading this - please boycott and sanction the US! Starving the billionaire leeches and smacking government into pretending they have an iota of decorum or sense is necessary, and any outside influence on that is helpful.

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[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago

I'm with you. Fuck this shit.

[–] brewery@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Exactly. I'm already thinking about pulling my pension pot out of any US investments. It's a tiny amount but maybe we can start a movement to keep pension investments in countries and systems you believe in, not whatever mix are typically used

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 6 points 21 hours ago

Canadian. I've divested 100% of my meagre savings out of us stocks. USA is not a reliable trading partner, or a leader in anything anymore except deceit.

[–] thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe 7 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Given there is going to be serious economic disruption there is a lot be said for diversifying your assets. If most of your assets are currently in the US moving your pension fund into assets held outside it is a strong de-risking move, particularly if you can move it out of the country totally using a foreign ~~prover~~ provider as well as holding non-US assets(not sure if that last is legally possible, don't know much about your pension system).

Note you may get poorer performance - it's really up in the air just yet what the short term impacts will be economically (depends what King Mango ends up deciding, it's mostly speculation right now)

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