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[โ€“] Emanuel@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Centuries? I knew their bad period started roughly around the Meiji Era and stopped after WWII, in regards to killing people, but that hardly constitutes centuries

[โ€“] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

stopped after WWII

That's what they and the Western governments legitimizing hyper-nationalist holocaust-deniers like Abe for geopolitical reasons want you to think, but in reality there's still a lot of fuckery going on, to use the technical term.

[โ€“] Emanuel@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you point to something I can read on this? I don't want this to sound like "I doubt what you're saying", I just know little about Japan after WWII and didn't think full scale genocides were going on. Of course, even after the wars, Japan does not have the best record regarding, uh, being nice to other ethnic groups.

[โ€“] jamielife@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not the op, but since you seem serious, I think a better way of wording it would be, "spent centuries at war and attempted to genocide a few cultures". So, aside from the fact that most of the history of Japan is just waring states and almost never ending infighting, you can look into the Imjin War for Japan's first attempt at conquering the mainland in the 1500s. It would also be worth looking into their conquest and/or eradication of the Ainu, Emishi, Ryลซkyลซ Kingdom.

[โ€“] Emanuel@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 1 year ago

Hey, thanks for the recommendations. I wasn't aware of the Emishi. I'll definitely look into it.

[โ€“] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well the 12th century and the Sengoku period were probably worse than the early Meiji period in terms of violence.

[โ€“] Emanuel@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, but I wouldn't call it genocide. I don't know, I'm not defending them for their crimes in the past century, but the original comment is a little hyperbolic.

[โ€“] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The modern (yamato) Japanese people replaced the previous inhabitants of Japan. I don't think it was a deliberate genocide, but at the end of the day the Emishi / Jomon cultures were wiped out.

Edit: Also, I was talking about violence in general, not genocide.

[โ€“] redballooon@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are we attributing Roman war practices to modern Italy too?

No, I don't think modern Italians have time machines to go back in time and train the Romans. Also, the Romans were actually competent, so it is unlikely that they were trained by the Italians.