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[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 118 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Putin has repeatedly said that Zelensky is illegitimate and would not negotiate with him. Guess who isn't invited to this particular set of negotiations?

The US has opened negotiations in a strong position by giving one side everything they asked for, to the point that the Russians are trying to figure out what else they can get away with.

When Trump eventually concludes negations it'll be every bit as hollow as Bush standing on an aircraft carrier with a mission accomplished banner behind him. Trump will demand a Noble prize, just like the one Obama got. Peace will not be achieved.

[–] Mio@feddit.nu 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is not a negotiation if the partners making the deal is not included.

Trump just looking for what he can win from this. He does not care if the deal is fair.

[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

That isn't the point of these talks. Trump, has no ideology other than what makes Trump look good. I'm that vein, these talks will

  1. Get Trump a Nobel prize for ending an "intractable" war. Suck it Obama.

  2. Stop sending money outside the US. Trump as far as I can tell has never had any friends. He can't figure out why you would help any one who is worse off you than yourself.

  3. Which brings me to the final point. Putin, is on paper the stronger person in this conflict. Trump doesn't see character as a useful trait, which in this comparison completely negates what ever Ukraine and Zelensky bring to the table. I don't think any one knows why he likes the man so much, but Trump clearly wants to ingratiate himself with him, so he's bending over backwards to give him what he wants.

[–] NoxAstrum@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

Trump thinks he's some sort of great negotiator. Putin is laughing the whole time.

[–] blady_blah@lemmy.world 71 points 2 days ago (2 children)

No, it'll be worse. Trump will use this as a way to remove all sanctions from Russia. He will basically try to reinstate Putin as part of the world economy. After this war of aggression, after all this destruction and death, Trump wants to brush Putin off and put a Halo on it.

Fuck that orange shit stain.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just wait until he starts selling F35s to Russia

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 9 points 2 days ago

On the time line we got... Possible

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee -5 points 1 day ago

Just like the people in other countries will forever hate me for being American, I will forever hate all Russians and Israelis for allowing their governments to do what they've done. I don't even care if that's right or wrong anymore, I'm just tired and weak from all this constant shit.