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We warned the people who sat home on election day about project 2025 and yet they covered their ears and enabled all of this.
Was it worth it for Harris and the dems to throw the election by standing with Israel? Neoliberals are also fascist.
Israel is so pro-Trump that they're giving him Gaza. Pull your head out of your ass.
Neoliberalism is also fascism. You need an actual opposition party if you want change.
Don't worry, you're gonna see the difference soon, one party wanted to relieve education debt, the other one is gonna put you and your loved ones in a cage.
tough to distinguish these nuances I'm sure....
im sure you guys would've voted for them if the israel thing didn't happen, surely you wouldn't have just complained about like, capitalism, or like, liberalism, or something.
so you stayed home and let dipshit donnie win because you didn't get your way.
nice fucking job.
If dems wanted to win why didnt they run on healthcare for all? Student loans? Housing?
You got played.
the sad thing is, you're gonna realize in a few months when shit goes off the rails, you had a choice, and because you wanted to be a pouty, whiney little bitch, whose exact and unrelenting demands must be met entirely or you're gonna have a tantrum, you couldn't mitigate the worst by participating in democracy.
Ideally, of course, we would have elected Bernie in 2016. ideally. Gore in 2000 (stolen). Carter in 80 (stolen, reagan worked with the fucking iranians), or Nixon in 68 (again, stolen, worked to avoid a peace deal with the north and keep the war going).
Ideally, lots of other things would have changed.
I don't know where the fuck you live, but here in reality, the ideal rarely presents itself.
Fact is, you got to pile up the ideal shit in your life in one hand, and the absolute EXCREMENT the right wants in the other, and see which fills up first sparky. Why didn't we run on healthcare for all? Student loans?
holy shit you're dense, or a strawman, because biden's record is better than anyone else you could point to.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/13/biden-student-loan-debt-forgiven.html
https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2025/bidens-public-health-wins
https://www.protectourcare.org/fact-sheet-president-bidens-health-care-legacy-is-a-bfd/
I got played? you ignorant twit, you betrayed a generation, nice fucking work.
And Democrats were warned that they need to stop putting their thumbs on the scale to push the most dog shit candidates that don't promise anything that will help the working class. Fascism happens when democracy is unresponsive to the needs of the working class, and for the last 50 years Democrats have just been great at finding excuses for why they can't do something. Do you think Trump will listen to the parliamentarian if they disagree with something?
Fuck, Democrats have even been voting for his cabinet picks, despite claiming Trump is a fascist. They all voted to confirm Marco Rubio.
what about biden? Dude was pretty popular with blue collar workers, and pushed a lot of good relevant legislation.
this is factually, not fascism, i feel like im speaking with nazis trying to "subvert" the normie population and "enlighten" them or whatever the fuck groypers do.
You're either purposely misunderstanding my post, or just obtuse. I'm saying fascists get elected when democracy fails to solve people's problems, not that that unresponsiveness is fascism itself. Look at Weimar Germany and Italy.
to be clear, what you said is an extremely obtuse way to say that "people elect fascists when they want a fascist"
people are acting like it's some fucking new world order plot to overthrow the US government with fascism, but like actually, a bunch of idiots with the ability to vote did it.
also, if you wanted to make that statement more generally accurate, "fascism happens when the people feel that traditional government has failed them" since fascism tends to be primarily opportunist by nature.
And voters were warned with years of inaction that they needed to start being more engaged.
The reason we have so many shit candidates is because people don't show up for the real ones.
"The purpose of a system is what it does". If our system consistently produces shit candidates, shit policies, shit results and demoralizes voters... Then we have a shit system and nothing will ever improve until we demand a modern multiparty democracy with proportional representation and safe guards against fascism.
Democrats fielded someone who wasn't a criminal IN A BINARY CHOICE.
It's baffling how stupid people are. Just vote for the person who isn't a rapist bent on destroying the country. Like "see the man-child who can't keep his hands to himself? Vote for the candidate who isn't him."
Stop whining that Dems didn't field mother Theresa.
Mother Theresa was a fucking monster by the way…
Harris is a neoliberal in favor of genocide and Israel. If she wanted to win all she had to do was stand for Palestine and/or healthcare.
and yet the guy who thought bombing gaza with a nuclear bomb would be a good idea was the one that won the election, so you're working uphill against a slippery slope with that argument my friend, because it seems like, nobody really gave a fuck.
The sad truth is that a large portion of our countrymen do not care about Gaza. The Dem's are wasting time on what is essentially a minority issue in this country. It's not an election winning topic here. They need to focus on the economy at home first and foremost. The majority are short sighted and selfish and as I get older I genuinely question if a true democracy is even possible when the masses are so easily swayed by social media and bullshit. Just to be clear I'm not advocating for fascism, I just don't have any ideas.
I voted for Harris, but she was an accessory to Biden's genocide of Palestine. So don't pretend like she was a decent candidate. Her refusal to condemn genocide was monsterous and made her completely unfit for office, but she just happened to be the lesser evil so I voted for her.
Our system is just rotten beyond redemption. Conservatives ratchet the country towards oligarchy while Liberals act as bulwark against socialist reform that would actually help the working class.
So, the litmus test of this logic is this: Do we blame the opposition for the Nazi party? Should we start doing that too after 80 years?
We have no opposition party lmao. Was it worth it for Harris to throw the election by siding with Israel? Neoliberals are also fascist.
It's a concurrence. Who do you blame for the rise of the nazi party: the nazis who kept rigging the deck in their favor and sowing discord, the conservatives who enabled them, the ineffective social democrats whom people were disillusioned with, the people who held out against voting for them, or the people who basically were screaming at the latter three to do fucking something.
With the amount of screaming and championing that the Dems have ignored I refuse to believe it's incompetence or ignorance. This is wilful and active support for the party they claim they're in opposition to.
I was told by a coworker, just after election day, that Project 2025 was just propaganda, and that "Democrats have their own propaganda too you know..."
Shit left me speechless. I was just like, let's revisit this conversation in three months.
mine were like yea but the price of eggs
I assure you we now talk about the price of eggs, inflation, and job security daily
and by that I mean I talk at them while they pretend it is all fine
So did you revisit that conversation?
Because I've heard that exact sentence from my buddy, who is from Eastern Europe - still talking about the US. Where did they get that info, I will never know.
I've tried... They do not seem interested.
To be fair, we have a hybrid WFH system, I haven't seen the guy in a few weeks, and I only mentioned it to him once via text. I think I will be spending some time with him next week, so I'll probably bring it up then.
I voted for Harris out of harm reduction with a funeral dirge in my heart yet again voting for neoliberal scum that sold out the country to the corpo Fascists lock step with Republicans for decades, but is this the resistance from now on, or will we eventually stop scolding what is now the past hoping it will change the present or future?
Because it won't. You can't shame his voters, Republicans have been immune to shame since Reagan, and scolding the low information "I'm not political, teehee when's football/Reality Show crap on" people who haven't had anything at all to vote FOR, only against the greater evil for the last 50 years will only make them roll their eyes and remain disengaged.
Either foment hot revolution starting with destroying the capital markets, steal the DNC with a socialist populist as trump did as a fascist populist to the RNC, or back a socialist Party. Everything else is masturbation on a sinking ship with the capitalists tearing new holes every day.
Because either under neoliberals or Fascists, the capitalists are unrestrained. And if the capitalists remain unrestrained, the planet WILL burn in our lifetimes for all of humanity effectively forever, as millions of years is forever to our little monkey brains.
There are microplastics in my kids' brains, but by God let's not slow down fracking in Pennsylvania.