Lefty Memes
An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.
Serious posts, news, and discussion go in c/Socialism.
If you are new to socialism, you can ask questions and find resources over on c/Socialism101.
Please don't forget to help keep this community clean by reporting rule violations, updooting good contributions and downdooting those of low-quality!
Rules
0. Only post socialist memes
That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)
1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here
Try to keep an open mind, other schools of thought may offer points of view and analyses you haven't considered yet. Also: This is not a place for the Idealism vs. Materialism or rather Anarchism vs. Marxism debate(s), for that please visit c/AnarchismVsMarxism.
2. Anti-Imperialism means recognizing capitalist states like Russia and China as such
That means condemning (their) imperialism, even if it is of the "anti-USA" flavor.
3. No liberalism, (right-wing) revisionism or reactionaries.
That includes so called: Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Dengism, Market Socialism, Patriotic Socialism, National Bolshevism, Anarcho-Capitalism etc. . Anti-Socialist people and content have no place here, as well as the variety of "Marxist"-"Leninists" seen on lemmygrad and more specifically GenZedong (actual ML's are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don't just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago).
4. No Bigotry.
The only dangerous minority is the rich.
5. Don't demonize previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.
We must constructively learn from their mistakes, while acknowledging their achievements and recognizing when they have strayed away from socialist principles.
(if you are reading the rules to apply for modding this community, mention "Mantic Minotaur" when answering question 2)
6. Don't idolize/glorify previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.
Notable achievements in all spheres of society were made by various socialist/people's/democratic republics around the world. Mistakes, however, were made as well: bureaucratic castes of parasitic elites - as well as reactionary cults of personality - were established, many things were mismanaged and prejudice and bigotry sometimes replaced internationalism and progressiveness.
- Absolutely no posts or comments meant to relativize(/apologize for), advocate, promote or defend:
- Racism
- Sexism
- Queerphobia
- Ableism
- Classism
- Rape or assault
- Genocide/ethnic cleansing or (mass) deportations
- Fascism
- (National) chauvinism
- Orientalism
- Colonialism or Imperialism (and their neo- counterparts)
- Zionism
- Religious fundamentalism of any kind
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i doubt this will invite them to reflect their ideology
They ain't gonna argue in good faith so there's no point talking to them, and just ignoring them doesn't work. Humiliating them is the best option, and proving they are physically weak is one way to do that. The only other option is to destroy them by any means necessary
Jfc, imagine piping up do defend literal nazis, people who have chosen to follow an ideology dedicated to the extermination of people for who they ARE, and who are actively rounding people up in camps.
Go fuck yourself, collaborator.
Oh, and just fyi:
“Only one thing could have stopped our movement – if our adversaries had understood its principle and from the first day smashed with the utmost brutality the nucleus of our new movement“. - Adolf Hitler
Seriously dude, dial it back. You've got spittle flying out of the screen there
I'm not a dude, and you can feel free to go fuck yourself too, bootlicker.
Nah. Being right like that can't be defeated. Especially not the way you just tried to.
Sounds like the treatment didn't take, better punch them again.
And this fucker defending them, too..
Nah, now, don't go all moral absolutism where just because a person isn't as rabid as you like they're suddenly an enemy. That's bullshit thinking.
They didn't defend a damn thing.
Sorry, all I can hear is gargling boot noises...
Look, fuckstick, there's a line between someone trying to be reasonable and decent and being a collaborator.
That you don't see that, that you can't imagine a world where any viewpoint but your own has validity makes you a fascist too, just not a nazi one.
Get off your fucking high horse, stop fucking with people that are potential allies, and grow the fuck up
Here again, same failure. Keep trying to fail like that. This place will not recognize you sucking fascist cocks as defendable.
Makes me feel better though!
ok, but isn't the goal the end of fascism?
They didn’t reason themselves into fascism they’re not going to reason their way out either.
Yeah, I respect the principle, but it isn't realistic.
By the time someone embraces that kind of ideology, you aren't talking them out of it. And, more important, you aren't ending the ideology one at a time.
It takes something huge to break through that kind of thinking and built up hate. Yeah, you run into cases of it happening when the nazi/fascist/white supremacist/bigot changes over time when no longer able to have support and has someone guiding them. But that's not going to end it once it's an existential threat.
And it is. The ideology was tolerated too long, and supported by people in power. You just don't have time to talk that away.