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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

Whether they actually are good for us and are actually fighting for us or not, constant smear campaign fueled by wealthy bad actors and foreign powers is going to have impacts on the vote.

Sometimes we need to fight back against bias by evening out that scale, declaring the value in voting blue no matter who.

Even if we think Democrats might shit the bed, we need to make it clear we have to prevent Republicans from pumping gallons of shit into the bedroom.

This group of progressives, "Our Revolution" was a continuation of the Bernie Sanders election campaign, and Bernie Sanders spent today yelling at the top of his lungs as the US confirmed a health secretary who actively promoted the unnecessary death of infants and argued with him on pharmaceutical company profits.

Voter Outreach and party platform is OUR JOB. Not just the DNC.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Who's the one running the primaries, collecting donations and buying ad space?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Who are the ones voting in primaries, donating, and volunteering?

Bernie Sanders was in the 2016 and 2020 primaries and lost by an absolutely huge margin both times. The organization isn't the problem. How the people are voting is. Even if you "fix" the DNC it won't fix the problem.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They didn't even bother to run primaries for this last election even though they had to know that Biden wasn't going to run. They gambled on wasting the RNC's efforts running an anti-Biden campaign when they were going to swap Harris in and lost.

They also turned out the lights on anti-war Sanders supporters, so forgive me if I don't think the DNC plays fair. The US is going to collapse and I can't say we don't deserve it.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

That's basically how incumbent presidents have worked for 248 years. That's not news. Biden obtained 14,465,519 out of 16,610,102 votes in the 2024 primary election, 87.09% and obtained 3,894 delegates while the runner up received 35.

He had every right to pass his chance on to his VP and I thank him for it, it was a valiant effort and took a lot of courage I'm sure.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago

So much courage to wait until the last minute. We should have primaries for every incumbent.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

So you’re saying we should lie about the loser democrats?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Can you really say that you're against christofascist oligopoly when thats the words you have to say about the only opposition?

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I can say I am against the DNC and that they are going to lose their leadership whether they like it or not. There’s a new generation of Dems and the Dems will die and there’ll be a new party or they will accept the policies that supermajorities of Dems and republicans support and kick their loser ass leadership who only knows how to get donors money and lose elections

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

There is not always a new party. In the past, new parties came from branching old parties.

One party systems exist and that is the path the USA is currently on: Repupublican Authoritarianism.

If you would back dems long enough to get supermajority they could pass voting reforms which make your ideal possible.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 0 points 18 minutes ago (1 children)

You seem to think corporate dems actually care that they lost. They would rather enjoy their donor money and lose elections than legislate policy supermajorities of Americans both republican and dems support.

Blue no matter who is a failed strategy and it’s why we have what we have today. Stop ass kissing dem leadership. We owe them nothing. They owe us policy proposals and to fight for our cause, not the other way around.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 17 minutes ago

Political donations are heavily regulated and are used only for political campaigns. You're not even allowed to promote your business in a campaign advertisement.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social -1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I suppose not, I guess if the only two choices are for or against “christofascist oligopoly” I’ll just stand back and make fun of you for making that choice

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

By standing back you make a choice.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social -1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

You’re suggesting that by making a choice you could stand back further which is untrue

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

By making the correct choice you could have saved lives who depended on Medicaid, SNAP, the VA, and Meals on Wheels which all currently have all funding frozen by Trump.

There is blood on the hands of the abstainer equal or greater than the blood on the hands of Republicans.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 0 points 21 minutes ago

That’s ridiculous, you’re just taking the bait of the DNC leadership and trying to blame voters when the blame rests fully on them for their shitty candidates