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I mean... I kinda get it, but nowadays it's starting to get absurd.

(EDIT: This was supposed to be a "blow air out my nose and get on with my life" meme...)

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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

For me its kinda opposite.

I'm ethnic Chinese and have this bad feeling about Japanese things. Like I do not hate Japanese people, I just have this bad feeling about their culture and society. I feel like they are very conservative. Like people say "Japanese people are so nice", I get Sino-Japanese war flashbacks (well not exactly "flashbacks", I wasn't alive at that time, but y'all know what I mean), I don't think I'd feel welcome if I ever went to Japan as a tourist, even as a US citizen. Japan always has this weird anti-foreigner sentinment, especially the anti-Chinese sentinment. They (allegedly, according to the news) deny the Nanjing Massacre in schools, erasing it from history books. Some stores (allegedly) have a "No Chinese People or Dogs" sign on their door. Every time people praise Japan like "they are so punctual", I remember the train accidents that same "punctuality" that it caused. And the guilty until proven innocent sentinment that is almost as bad as authoritarian countries (like China).

Although, Anime is kinda cool tho, not a weeb but I watched a few. I just don't like the "fan service" things they put in Anime.

In contrast, while I do get sus of Chinese electronics, that more about CCP and spyware, less about the fact that they are "China". The fact that they are "China" doesn't bother me. And I'd get sus too if a US company got too close to the NSA. But if I get a Chinese phone, I'd have both CCP and NSA spyware, so I rather have less spyware than more.

Also, the US trying to ban DJI (and other Chinese made drones) is such a dumb thing. That is the type of "China Bad" sentinment I just fucking hate, its not even about CCP anymore. Like, I could use drones with a second smartphone that's airgapped and not have any data leaks. Or use a remote with a built in screen. Besides, why does the government care so much, drones aren't allowed into military bases, everywhere else is just public data. Google Maps already hsve the entire US mapped, and even images of entire streets, more detail than any drone can gather. And a CCP spy wouldn't be obeying US laws anyways and even if they ban DJI, spies would just use a DIY drone to get in to military bases. They are essentially trying to legislate away people's hobbies. wtf lol

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Recently, the new Indiana Jones game highlighted Japan’s aerial bombardment of Shanghai before WW2. It was a nice reminder to me that Japan is hardly an innocent nation, no matter how much they’re praised for today.

The Yakuza games also have some pretty good focus on how they treat the homeless, including demographics of Chinese and Korean immigrants that get marginalized.

The electronics bit is where I’m concerned, in part because their aggression is not limited to government, but also private citizens. They’ve previously attempted to repatriate immigrants via coercion and forced abductions.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

forced abductions

Ay yo wtf. Source?

I have 2 threats to worry about?

Fascist Magats and Random CCP motherfuckers?

😭

(fuck my life)

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Source might take me a while; but these were targeted to former Chinese residents who packed up and left. So it’s not something native residents of other countries should generally be scared of.

EDIT: Found a decent Wikipedia article pretty quickly.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnational_repression_by_China

Another one, less sure about the source: https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/03/29/the-disappeared-china-renditions-kidnapping/#cookie_message_anchor

[–] DNU@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

if you fled China because you had to or else bad things would happen, there's a good chance you're gonna get stalked and sent death threats both physically and in digital form. Its crazy how far their reach is and how governments globally just don't care because it would be such a hassle to deal with.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The racism in Japan isn’t outward, they keep it to themselves. You wouldn’t even notice it if you went there as a tourist, since they stay polite. The “no gaijin allowed” places are rare unless you want to visit a certain type of establishment 😉 Japan has systemic racism against ethnic Chinese citizens, but the average Japanese person isn’t really racist to Chinese people and if they are it’s from ignorance rather than hatred. Japan is one of the top foreign destinations for tourists from China. It wouldn’t be if Chinese people weren’t welcome.

You’d have a tougher time in South Korea. Where they actually say racist shit to your face.

[–] ZeDoTelhado@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This is an interesting take. I've been to Japan as a tourist once, and I can tell it was probably one of my best trips I've ever made (the sheer amount of novelty and getting around the people was really cool), and I can attest the people were very nice to me. But I can also tell, if I was part of the work force, the sentiment would be different. I did never see signs against Chinese people anywhere BTW.

As for the "China bad" part. Check how people brigade on shitter to "cancel people out" (very definition of cancel culture) and you quickly see that some people LOVE the mob mentality. This is also what is going on people going after stuff such as dji for no reason (but I will say straight up, I am not sure if I would trust network equipment easily. Same for me actually applies to cisco as well)

[–] RidderSport@feddit.org 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The mob mentality part and the self-justice and eye-for-an-eye-mentality is something I, as a European, find quite appalling. Not only in the Chinese but (South-) Korean culture as well. Granted I barely know more about their respective cultures than you can see from their exported tv-shows and other media. Frankly even "Squid games" made me sick at times. And the way some Korean novels and anime praise acts of completely over the top acts of revenge is not something I can identify with. However there seem to be more similarities between both countries than they care to admit.

On another note, has anyone watched the sequel to Initial D? Holy fucking hell, the damn nationalism is way too obvious

[–] ZeDoTelhado@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Haven't watched anything anime related for ages... Never watched initial d. But its possible the nationalist thing is accurate (also: what's the deal of portrayals on the regular of Germans in their shows?). Regarding the whole over the top "violence" and other stuff, there is for sure a difference in cultures here. I find funny for instance on anime we have the mega villains and all that, but in contrast, if you leave a bike unattended in the middle of Tokyo there is a big chance you still see it next day. Of course there is the whole yakuza thing and scamming tourists, but I would argue criminality is just very different. As for why people lean into sometimes what we consider extreme content, maybe is just an exposure thing? When people are exposed to different realities they tend to be either more or less inclined to see depictions of it or complete opposites.