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[–] Fleur_@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's like you haven't even read the article. What you cited is a piece on the state of fandom. Here are the only somewhat relevant quotes from it. Notably they are consistent with everything I quoted in my previous comment

"I speak only of comics fandom here, but have gained the impression that this reflexive belligerence – most usually from middle-aged white male conservatives – is now a part of many fan communities. "

"Those who vote for Donald Trump or Boris Johnson seem less moved by policy or prior accomplishment than by how much they’ve enjoyed the performances on The Apprentice or Have I Got News for You."

You are being deliberately disingenuous which I can only assume is to either push an agenda or to desperately hold on to the idea that you are 'right.'

By not doing due diligence you have undoubtedly contributed to spreading misinformation. Please consider reading your sources and if you did actually read this article, I would strongly recommend undertaking a media literacy course or perhaps an english language course.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You say that like that invalidates my takeaway from it. In the world of Alan Moore, the two topics are mixed by default, with one often used as a proxy discussion for the other. Given this context, you could easily go to those who are acting on behalf of either a fandom or a movement and say "heed this person's caution" and it wouldn't be out of place.

[–] Fleur_@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Your title claimed Alan moore has denounced revolutionary movements that draw symbolism from his works. You failed to elaborate on what movements and how he has denounced them. I followed sources you provided and took extracts from those sources showing what movements he has expressed support for and what movements he has denounced. You have no takeaway, you haven't tried to say anything or provided any context for anything. You're just pushing clickbait for votes. You don't even seem familiar with the fact that v for vendetta isn't just a movie.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

You say that like anyone has to be specific about it, and even then it ignores Anonymous (which is a movement) takes the spotlight here. You can infer a few things if you take his words and apply them to different movements. In fact, it can be applied to your approach to his criticism here. Unless, of course, Alan Moore is inconsistent as a political thinker in the first place.

[–] Fleur_@lemm.ee -1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Your entire point is 'vibes' based? Fr?

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Fleur_@lemm.ee -1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

You literally just said that you are not basing your argument off of things he has actually said but rather your feelings about him as a person

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

What part of what I said are you getting that from?

[–] Fleur_@lemm.ee -1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

"like anyone has to be specific about it"

"You can infer"

When you say these things you are implying that you feel it is okay to make assumptions based at best adjacent, at worst contradictory statements someone has said. That is to say, your vibes about a person.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 14 hours ago

Inferring means taking two or more details and coming up with (one might phrase it as triangulating) a new realization based on them. For example, if someone said "I live in Andorra" and then elsewhere said "my phone number is six digits long", you can infer they use a cell phone because immobile phones there use seven digit phone numbers.

This is inference, the stuff of Sherlock Holmes, which is different from how we apply the words "assuming" (which one might say would mean concluding something based on false interpretations of details, e.g. if they said "I live in Andorra" and you think they speak Catalan based on it being the official language since not everyone has to speak the official language), "reading between the lines" (which one might say is the same thing but based in themes, e.g. saying someone must be Andorran if someone dressed like an Andorran, spoke like an Andorran, etc. when they could be French and just happen to do things like an Andorran), and "reading the room" (which one might say refers to vibes, e.g. someone saying they're from Andorra and they say it in a shy tone so it registers to you as a sensitive topic for them even if the tone is actually circumstantial).