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    [–] yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    EDIT: I apologize to everyone who has so far read this comment. I misunderstood what Linus Torvalds meant in the interview I mentioned. I thought he was just calling the Russian kernel contributors "Internet trolls", be he was actually referring to Russian "troll farms" taking advantage of the controversy generated by how the Linux Foundation removed the Russian devs from kernel development without saying a word, to entice outrage and try to get the Foundation's decision reversed. (afaik they had to do it because the US government ordered them to, and the foundation is hosted in the US.) I'm leaving the post in its original form for posterity.

    ~~I think the way Torvalds treated the Russian kernel maintainers that got silently removed from development (a situation that, by itself, was completely mishandled) was awful to say the least. In a interview, he said they were all Internet trolls, and referenced conflicts between Finland and Russia to "explain" his disdain for Russians. Say what you want, but I usually call a person that judges others based on their country of birth alone, an asshole. Not just that, but such behaviour sounds extremely ungrateful when we are talking about people who contributed in extremely important ways to Torvalds' biggest project of his life. I used to have a positive view of Torvalds, but this kind of ruined it for me.~~

    [–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    He didn't call the maintainers trolls.

    In brief, the creator and lead developer of the Linux kernel stated that the dismissals were simply made in line with the policy of sanctions on the Russian aggressors in the Ukraine war.

    Moreover, Torvalds didn’t pull any punches when he said “lots of Russian trolls” were working to make the recent decision look unpopular. Torvalds directly accused Russia of wielding its army of social media bots in an attempt to fake a grassroots campaign and reverse the Russian maintainer cull.

    This tracks with other Russian social media efforts.

    [–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

    He did tho. I don't know where and why you've pulled these quotes from, when the original message is available publicaly, and where it's very clear whom exactly he accused.

    [–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 1 points 13 minutes ago

    In your own link he's referring to the people decrying the decision as trolls, not the maintainers.

    [–] yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    So I interpreted this interview the wrong way. This changes everything!

    Thank you for letting me know that I was making a misinformed comment. I'm editing it as we speak.

    [–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

    No, thank you for holding yourself accountable.