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What's wrong with LTT?
Only 3 reasons to watch their type of vids, preview/review of shiny new tech product, technical expertise or entertaining hosts.
But these days, other channels have the same access to new products, they are definitely not experts in the subjects they cover, and I find all the hosts pretty dull.
https://lemmy.zip/comment/13100245
Here's a quick roundup of some, but not all of the issues people have with LTT.
All these things listed are blunders (some quite big ones) but I think the person who responded to that comment with the opposing view makes a lot of sense. They added the nuance to the situation that the comment you linked to I think glasses over since they obviously don't like Linus. Personally their (the response comments) take is where I stand on these issues too.
Obvious, as LTT has grown they have made mistakes but they have always explained their reasoning or otherwise apologised and tried to make things right.
Overall I think they are a force for good in the world. They teach millions about tech, how to use it, and how you can save money. As they become more corporate their passion may fade but I think it's still there and I'll probably keep watching their stuff for the time being
But you don't understand. This is the Internet. You are either a saint or the anti-christ. There is nothing In-between and nuance is propaganda. And if you don't agree with my currently held emotionally charged position, you are what's wrong with (fill in the blank).
Unfortunately thats the problem with the world atm. No one cares for the facts, just what ever fits their narrative
My issue is he's a large channel and their videos are consistently inaccurate. I've never watched a video of his on linux or android or android tv and couldn't find numerous flaws. He is a huge channel with a lot of influence and he's prioritized pumping out inaccurate videos instead of doing the due diligence and research. I feel with as large of a channel he has and as much influence he has, he has a responsibility. Instead he's doing the tech community as a whole harm. Literally every video I've seen from him regarding linux or android was extremely inaccurate or missing beneficial information. I always wrote it off as he's just a gamer bro and that's more his niche but then the gamernexus video dropped and showed he was even getting that wrong. LTT has done more harm to the tech community on YouTube than any other channel.
The more recent context has to do with Linus personally, Rossman just did a video on it
A former employee alleged that she was harassed and mistreated while working for him.
The work load stuff they seem to have improved (from what I can tell) but the result of the sexual harassment investigation they had been carried out is unknown to the public as far as I know (I assume by now it's concluded). Not sure we'll ever know what really happened cause that sort of info probably won't become public.
Given there are other women what continue to work there (I implore them to speak up if they feel the same) hopefully it was just an isolated incident and whoever was responsible was fired.
I don't remember where it was posted - maybe a community note on YouTube - but they basically said that the third party investigation they had done concluded that the accusations were unfounded.
LTT is a joke, but that's why it's interesting to watch.
Honestly I didn't really care about the allegations until Steve Burke alleged that Linus told him he's "less autistic then he used to be". Its also annoying how he clearly has a superiority complex.
From what I've discerned, the fame; internet clout; and money got to their heads to the point they drifted from mostly impartial and helpful information to a more biased perspective, with which benefits their sponsors more than their viewers or the community as a whole.
Tbh, I don't think I agree. The only times I feel they can't really be impartial "even if they say they are" is when they use a sponsors parts to build something. Or otherwise the whole video is sponsored but they kinda are reviewing the fevice. I don't really like those videos but they are very clear about the fact that it is sponsored so viewers can at least down some salt whilst they watch the video. They also do state some issues they have with the products when they arise which is good (though obviously they may not say everything that's wrong with it)
they're probably just mad that his Linux videos do a terrible job representing Linux.
I watched his videos on Linux and tried using Ubuntu myself a little while back and tbh I kinda had a similar experience to him.
Being asked to restart fairly often and finding it difficult to instal more niche things with command line even if I could just copy paste stuff. I like the lack of Microsoft bullshit but the programs I used for uni and games weren't compatible at the time.
That being said I tried about a year before steam deck became a thing and I got that a year+ ago and haven't had too many issues like that (still some though). Looking forward to general steamos release cause I definitely want to try again
Yeah, I think most people that have 10 or more years experience with linux or unix or other forms think that it has gotten much easier to start out than when they did it, sure it was a struggle back then, but it's been ten years and I have an easy time with all of it now, so it must be easier now. It may be a bit easier than it was 10 years ago, or 20 years ago, but it's still very much not "accessible". Even most steam deck users have a hard time with the very simple, presentable, accessible version that comes on that.
It's easy to lose track of how hard something is when it hasn't been for you in a long time. But linux is unfortunately still very inaccessible for the vast majority of people. It is constantly moving in the right direction, and generally worth getting through the hard part to make it to the other side, but you need motivation to do so, as it will fight back for a long time. But, windows and mac have it almost as bad. Neither one is quite as hard to transition to as linux, but there is still a decent barrier to switch between them. Once linux is around that same level of barrier, that's when we can expect the numbers to come up notably.
Tbh I found steam os alright mostly cause devs making stuff for it have put work into making things GUI based. That being said, I did try install some other stuff to see what I could do and it got confusing so maybe cause I only game on it it's fine π .
I have used windows for all my life but the main reason I want to try switch to Linux is cause windows has gone to shit. Literally one of the 3 largest companies in the world can't make a file explorer that actually works correctly. Plus MS pushing their own services hard is just so annoying.
Ubuntu isnt very good, but a lot of people recommend it because it used to be good. use something else that has an Ubuntu base (for app availability). I would recommend tuxedo os for kde plasma and pop os for a gnome-like experience but a little better. a lot of people recommend mint but I wouldn't, though the reason I wouldn't doesn't really matter to newer users. the most important thing to consider (assuming you're choosing something with an Ubuntu base ther handles drivers normally) is what desktop environment you want. Ubuntu is a modified version of gnome. gnome is kind of like the computer equivalent of how phones work (in a good way). kde plasma is visually a lot like windows (pre 11)by default, but has enough customization that it can look however you want (mine is set up with a windows 10 style taskbar, tiling, and gnome-like handling of virtual desktops). pop shell (what pop os has) is a modified version of gnome that is kind of in between gnome and a conventional desktop, and they are working on something new called cosmic that is even better. remember you can always use a virtual machine to test without affecting your normal system.
edit: forgot to mention cinnamon (mint's desktop). it looks pretty much just like windows 10 like kde, but it has less customization (on purpose). whether that matters or not is up to you.
The fact that you can apparently install the "wrong OS" isn't making it easier for first time Linux users.
Especially if that "wrong OS" is a popular OS.
I never said it was the "wrong OS", I'm just saying that it isn't very good as opposed to other distros. I also went on to explain exactly why I say that and that the best distro is the one you like the most that works for your use case.
You don't, but plenty of Linux users says it's the wrong OS. In fact, I've seen plenty that says you shouldn't choose many of the most popular distros such as Linux Mint and Pop_OS. It always makes me wonder if these people aren't just trying to sabotage Linux desktop adoption among newbies by making it more confusing than it needs to be. Just say the pros and cons of such and such distro and just let people make their own choice instead of trying to push their favourite distro over more popular ones.
firstly, I clarified that I wasn't saying it was bad. second, what other people say independent of me is irrelevant to what I said. third, I explained what the problem was that was making me say that about ubuntu in detail, cited the people saying there is a 'wrong' distro as a reason for doing that, and explicitly said (twice in this thread) that the only relevant things in how good a distro is are whether you like it and whether it works for you.
I'm definitely gonna come back to this when I try Linux again sometime this year when I have a moment to mess around!
Probably a dumb question but why is Ubuntu bad?
It's not 'bad' necessarily, but it makes a lot of controversial decisions such as it's use of snap packages over flatpak. these decisions are harmful to the linux community as a whole and to the experience of using ubuntu, so it's best to avoid supporting it.
for some context on the snap thing, basically different distros use different packaging formats (.deb, .rpm, etc.) which makes it hard to distribute software. also, each individual system is set up differently and has different packages which can make fixing bugs difficult, especially for developers who aren't very familiar with linux. to solve this, flatpak is distro-agnostic (runs on any linux) and puts the app in the same environment on every system. it's also sandboxed, which basically means each app is in it's own little box and it can only see/interact with things it has permission to. snap does most of that as well, but unlike flatpak it is completely controlled by a single entity (canonical, company behind ubuntu) and it means that instead of one sandboxed thing for every distro we have two, which solves nothing. there are some other issues as well, but currently the issue of snap packages is the biggest one most people have with ubuntu.
for more information on all this, I would recommend The Linux Expirement on youtube. not by any means the only good linux channel, but my favorite. also, please ignore the tribalism. people will act like there is a best distro, there is not. people will act like a distro is useless because it doesn't have some random tool that most don't, it is not. if you like the distro and it works for you the it's the best one because your use case is all that matters on your computer.
Thanks for the explanation! Makes sense why people don't like it now
No problem, I try to explain that pretty well when people ask because it's something that there's a lot of misleading info about because of the tribalism.
Ubuntu has gone to shit, use Mint instead
I see this a lot but I always wonder why is it bad? Didn't seem that bad when I tried it
snaps forced down your throat, stability issues, lots of bad decisions in the past (unity, ads in menu or terminal)
none of that is in mint
They're a bunch of Windows power-user clowns cosplaying as tech experts.
Long story short, he's an ignorant asshole. Sorry I don't have enough time atm to list all the detaills lol. Gamer Nexus recently made another post about him and his company which was also going around on lemmy.
Edit: someone else made a good summary https://lemmy.zip/comment/13100245
https://gamersnexus.net/gn-extras/our-response-linus-sebastian
Spouting shit and not providing any proof. Are you a republican?
Like I said I didn't have time to list them as I am traveling looking at mobile to pass time. Since you are quick to judge, are you a Republican? :P
Tbh, whether GN is right or not I do find his reporting practices kinda wack. Not asking for comment before a video is put out is disengenuous even if the response. Regardless of what a response to that would be I think it's fair to ask for comment at least
Previously they did reach out privately (like when LTT plagiarised GN) but after Linus said something negative about GN publicly unwarranted, they had a fallout and everything is done publicly now. Seems fair to me and he always reaches out to other companies first before making a report from what I can see. I don't remember what the drama was about but something to do with testing a product when LTT made a mistake and got too defensive when they got called out.
Edit: found a comment explaining that with bit more detail https://lemmy.zip/comment/13100245
Gamers nexus was easily proven wrong too. Trusting gamers nexus on anything these days is just gonna make you look bad. Steve has clearly no problem with attacking LTT no matter what he has to make up in order to do so. LTT arenβt saints, but they arenβt making up shit in order to attack other creators. Itβs just not possible to trust GN to be proper journalists anymore.
When was GN proven wrong and did they at least admit they where wrong? Everybody gets things wrong, it's how often you're wrong and how you handle being wrong that matters.
The whole copper heatsink thing? Like literally all of it (like everything from that video, not just the heatsink) was immediately debunked and Steve did and said nothing to take back his comments. If I remember right he even doubled down, but I could be misremembering.
Steve doubled down because he was sent the entire email exchange from the heatsink company and posted it as proof.
Idk his article had all the screenshots to prove the points from what I can see so I would rather take his word than someone who doesn't mind harassment in their workplace.
Edit: found the article https://gamersnexus.net/gn-extras/our-response-linus-sebastian