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Did you try the tinkering recommendations on protonDB? They're great. Might be able to help you if you hadn't tried them.
Yes, I did. Most of the time that works, but there is one game which I absolutely love, Space Engineers, and I could not get that to work with any amount of tinkering.
Edit: I just tried it again. Installation of Proton GE was necessary and had some hiccups. Used command line values from ProtonDB. Space Engineers kind of works now. Performance isn't great though, some sudden FPS drops.
Hey, drag. I can tell you that most people trying to switch from Windows to Linux do not want to sit there after a long day at work and tinker with stuff to just get a game running.
Yesterday, after a 10 hour shift, I got home and tried to get WeMod working on my openSUSE Tumbleweed. I got home at 6 in the afternoon, and had been up since 6 that morning. It wasn’t until 9 PM that I was finally able to get WeMod working with Mass Effect Legendary Edition, thanks to the WeMod-launcher team over on GirHub.
That means I was only able to play for maybe an hour before bed just because I wanted something that is as simple as double clicking on Windows, and playing.
Now, I understand I’m an edge case, because I want to use cheats on my games. That’s just the general attitude I’ve seen when trying to get people to switch over myself.
“Why isn’t my program working?”
“Oh, yeah. Programs for Windows don’t work as they should. You have to do x and y and then sprinkle a little bit of z in this config file over here on this other other program”
“What the fuck? That’s stupid.”
“No man. It’s really cool once you start to understand!”
“Please help me get my Windows back. I don’t want to bother with this, I just want to play my game / use my program”
Literal conversation I’ve had.
I have to say, my experience with Linux gaming was much better. Most of the games I play work more or less immediately without any tinkering at all. Of course if you play games which are protected by kernel-level anticheat measures then you are pretty much out of luck at this time. And there are other edge cases like you mentioned.
I think while glorifying the Linux gaming experience is wrong, it still has made enormous progress in the last years and it is worth a try for anyone who distrusts or dislikes Microsoft. Breaking monopolies isn't easy, but I personally think it is necessary to regain ownership over rmy own hardware, even if it makes things a bit more complicated in the beginning.
I couldn’t agree any more! I love Linux, and what it stands for, completely. I am trying my hardest to only stay on my Linux partition and find workarounds in the meantime time.
I am happy that for the most part, games do work with minimal tweaking. I just want to bring edge cases like mine into the conversation because people will tell others who are fresh into the Linux space that’s it is nothing but sunshine and rainbows, but never admit that there are still very real limitations to what is available and what can and can not work that most normal people would want from their OS, which is ease of use.
I understand we are in a bubble here, and we all know what it brings to the table, but for someone dipping their toes into it for the first time, they are being led to believe it’s really as simple as just installing a new OS and everything just works.
That’s just not the reality as of right now, no matter if all of your games work or not. Not everyone else is going to have the same easy experience some of us have here, because they are wanting to use their computer for things like modding or cheats or use programs that don’t work with Linux very well such as ME3Tweaks to install mods onto Mass Effect for example, or Reloaded-II to install mods to Atlus games like Persona/Metaphor.
Well I think there are Linux evangelists who won't accept that Linux might not fit everyone's needs and I despise that attitude. As an example, anyone who professionally works with documents all day knows that the most recommended Linux Office solution is absolutely inferior to the commercially available ones, and yet they push that hard and get really angry if someone begs to differ. There is a lot of ignorance towards the actual needs of users.
On the other hand, there are users who come from an ecosystem they are used to, and they find it hard to adjust to a new one and then blame the unfamiliar territory. I myself am a Linux user for over a decade, and whenever I have to fix something in a Windows system I'm astonished how difficult it actually is compared to what I'm used to. Everything is hidden deeply in seemingly random subsections of subsections of some weirdly named apps, the error codes are cryptic and the available documentation and support forums are borderline useless. In contrast, if I have a problem in Linux, even if I have no clue about the matter at hand, it's mostly trivial for me to find a solution online. But to an extent I have to blame myself for not being open to learn the Windows way of doing stuff (I'm stubborn and I have a short fuse when things are not working as intended)
What that boils down to essentially, for both the Linux evangelist and the average user who just wants to get shit done: if you're coming from one ecosystem and you try to assess the feasibility of another, don't expect things to work as you're used to, because then you're only projecting your own limitations.