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Not that many people use email much anymore, but as you often need an email address to sign up for other shit... anyway, I need a better option than gmail, I'm sure you can appreciate why. Email is so old school at this point that most of the time I don't even think about it anymore.

Anyway, I need some email options that aren't gmail or otherwise attached to a billionaire. I'm not really interested in non-email methods of communication, I'm specifically asking about email.

Thanks in advance.

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[–] optissima@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

And the fact that their internal information even can reveal any information indicates a lack of true privacy. Here is an example of setting up a system so you cannot comply.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Mullvad doesn't host email. The warrant pertained to emails, not a VPN.

[–] optissima@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Not having logs helps a ton with anonymity, and your question didn't have that requirement.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago

Because it didn't need it. Email cannot function with the same level of logging as a VPN. My question was about refusal to comply, which Mullvad did not do.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

how the fuck do you run an email provider without storing anything on disk, first of all?

next point is mullvad is ready to close shop if that's what they need to do after a raid. but of you're storing people's data for their request basically, like Proton, you can't just do that because everyone will be mad for losing their data and access to the email service.

finally, Proton does provide a way to use their services in secret, as they run their onion site. login over Tor, done. but probably also create the account over Tor, and never log in through clearnet with that account

[–] optissima@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I was answering

Name another company on the planet that will receive a legal warrant and refuses to comply. I'll wait.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

No you weren't. Not having the information is not the same thing as refusing to comply.

[–] optissima@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Preemptive prevention of access is a form of noncompliance

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 2 hours ago