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[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't that basically the same result though...

Problem with tech oligarchy is it just takes one person to get corrupted and then he blocks out all opinion that attacks his goals.

So the solution is federation, free speech instances that everyone can say whatever they want no matter how unpopular.

How do we counteract the bots...

Well we need the instances to verify who gets in, and make sure the members aren't bots or saying unpopular things. These instances will need to be big, and well funded.

How do we counter these instance owners getting bought out, corrupted (repeat loop).

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

No? The problem of tech oligarchy is that they control the systems. Here anyone can start up a new instance at the press of a button. That is the solution, not allowing unfiltered freeze peach garbage.

Small “local” human sized groups are the only way we ensure the humanity of a group. These groups can vouch for each-other just as we do with Fediseer.

One big gatekeeper is not the answer and is exactly the problem we want to get away from.

You counter them by moving to a different instance.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 1 points 19 hours ago

Concept is however that if a new instance is detatched from the old one... then it's basically the same story of leaving myspace for facebook etc... we go through the long vetting process etc... over and over again, userbase fragments reaching critical mass is a challange every time. I mean yeah if we start with a circle of 10 trusted networks. One goes wrong it defederates, people migrate to one of the 9 or a new one gets brought into the circle. but actual vetting is a difficult process to go with, and makes growing very difficult.