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In an unexpected mask off "secure" email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton's services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let's collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here ๐Ÿ”๐Ÿ‘‡

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

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[โ€“] LotrOrc@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Not really outside of the west. He's Taiwanese i believe and 88 is considered fairly auspicious

[โ€“] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Ah, okay. That makes sense. (Fwiw I've seen fascist types use 88 and 1488 outside the US, too. "88" is technically German. It can have begin meaning outside the US/The West in general, though.)

[โ€“] LotrOrc@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Yeah i know the connotations for the west is Hitler and aryan

Not quite the same but if you go to India you'll see swastikas everywhere. For Indians it means something completely different, Hitler just stole it and changed it. If you see a swastika in the west you generally know exactly what you're getting