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In an unexpected mask off "secure" email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton's services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let's collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here ๐Ÿ”๐Ÿ‘‡

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[โ€“] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

88 is typically used either on its own, or in full as 1488 by neo nazis and fascists. It's a dog whistle.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteen_Words

On its own, it can be used accidentally, such as if you have 88 in your username because you were born in '88, but if paired with other behavioral patterns it can become damning.

[โ€“] fastfomo7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

Sure, it could be. I wasn't defending him.
Just please don't think most of us using "88" or "888" for hinting Nazis, and "666" for praying Satan.

[โ€“] frozenspinach@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Well, like anything, it depends on context. In this context, it's not crazy to be on high alert for weird politicized signals.

However, I think you made a pretty good point about its meaning in Taiwan given that this fellow is apparently from there, combined with it being his year of birth. So, context decides and in this case at least it seems pretty ordinary.

For sure. Context absolutely matters, ans the context here doesn't establish a pattern from my understanding. So in this case it's unlikely to be a dog whistle.

But people should still be aware of what the 88/1448 dog whistle looks like.