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In an unexpected mask off "secure" email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton's services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let's collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here ๐Ÿ”๐Ÿ‘‡

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

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[โ€“] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

privacytools.io is full of affiliate links and PG has shit tech bro recommendations like Brave browser

[โ€“] MITM0@lemmy.world 0 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Boy I guess PT is not allowed to make money to fund their website It's way better than leaching from PT & TechLore fans

[โ€“] MITM0@lemmy.world 0 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

PrivacyTools has the better more updated content, are you against PT making money ? It's way better than PG stealing funds from PT

[โ€“] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

It's way better than PG stealing funds from PT

they didn't.

are you against PT making money

absolutely yes, the owner is an asshole and the website is shit

[โ€“] MITM0@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Not a good reason, techlore fanboy The website is pretty decent & clean & they have a better licencing

You drank the TechLore kool-aid Mistef

The website is pretty decent & clean

what the fuck? Google has a clean website, doesn't mean I should be using it. The usefulness of the information is what matters, and privacytools ranking ads as "best picks" sure as hell isn't informative

better licencing

same as above. Doesn't matter if they have a better license when everything else is a scam

[โ€“] MITM0@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Vs PG being actual thieves & liars ? Ok

Vs PG being actual thieves & liars ?

what did they steal?

[โ€“] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

tech bro recommendations like Brave browser

I'm never gonna recommend librewolf/mullvad browser/whatever is popular these days to a coworker, even if I daily drive them. Do you know what I did suggest to them, and they actually switched to it from chrome? Brave.

It's not the best, it's not the most powerful, but being able to say "it's chrome but without ads" is a major selling point, especially with non tech savy people who don't want their cookies cleared on every restart

[โ€“] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 2 points 23 hours ago

Brave is also run by a fascist supporter.

[โ€“] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Nowadays I would recommend Zen Browser + uBO over Brave which has a nice user-friendly UI and supposedly disables telemetry. Before Zen Browser, disabling the crap Brave comes with takes a similar amount of effort as tweaking Librewolf's aggressive privacy settings, but one of them is actually privacy focused and the other is run by a shady ad crypto company with a shady news feed that keeps pushing Fox News and a homophobic CEO. For mobile there's Cromite.