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Postal Devs ask fans to pirate games instead of using key resellers, giving explicit permission to fans (twitter.com)

submitted 1 year ago by ram@lemmy.ca to c/gaming@beehaw.org

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Running With Scissors:

Key reselling websites hurt indie developers like us. There are many ways to obtain our games and we STILL prefer piracy over people buying from those websites.
Illegaly obtained keys are a source of money for scammers and it could even affect you as the customer in some cases.

NiX:

I love you guys and postal series, but I’m not made of money, if I can get a game for cheaper I’d rather pay less than more.

Running With Scissors:

Which is why we're telling you to pirate our games instead of paying a scammer who will cost us money and probably even get your key revoked
Our games are cheap right now through official sites. Is saving a few cents worth lowering the chances for releasing another POSTAL game?

NiX:

Isn’t pirating illegal? You want your fans get fines and shit? Now they are on sale so I might pick up some but normally i still rather get the game of g2a for cheaper

Running With Scissors:

You can't get fines if the owners of the IP give you permission to download.
Just know that by getting on G2A, we not only get no money, we also have to pay for the chargeback, that's the core of the problem and it means no new games in the future and no more RWS

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[–] ram@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How would they know which keys are on G2A? They're bought through an intermediary before being resold on G2A.

[–] Leone@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The keys were given in plain text to this intermediary at some point. A copy of said text should exist.

The Steamworks Documentation explicitly recommends tagging the keys to keep track of them and potentially prevent this kind of issues.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I checked better because they mentioned chargebacks.

The "reseller" on g2a is actually a scammer who is using stolen credit cards for purchasing steam keys from the developers website, so even if they void it, they will incur a $30 chargebacks fee from each "sale"

[–] Hellsadvocate@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Correct. Once the charge ack occurs however, the key is revoked. The key is revoked and the customer goes to g2a who refuses refunds (unless you pay an extra cover charge fee now I think).

[–] ram@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Yes they were given to an intermediary like green man gaming who then sold it to what they believed was a customer but was actually a credit card scammer laundering money

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

False positives. If some of them are legitimate customers

Afaik you can't disable individual keys but the whole batch