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[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I don’t know why Euros always assume everyone is American.

And how is it? Do your leaders reflect your views entirely or is it chock full of compromises you don’t have to make on your end?

The only real democracy is direct democracy, not party politics.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

You just asdumed the person talking about German politics to be european, so theres that I guess.

[–] argon@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Our leaders are a mix of three different parties because not all German people have the same opinions.

Yes, our leaders are a compromise between left-leaning voters and right-leaning voters. Respecting more people's votes makes the country more democratic, not less.

If your question is about whether the people have free choice or if they can only choose one of the six parties currently in the Bundestag, the answer is the former. Little story:

Under Merkel, all German parties moved to be more migrant-friendly, until even Merkel's conservative party (the most right wing party at the time) was largely okay with migration.

However, there are many anti-migration voters in Germany. So what did they do? Did they say "oh, we only have these five options, guess there's no way I can vote against migration"? No, they founded a new party, the AfD, to be anti migration. This party quickly got into the Bundestag and rose to be a major party now.

Upon seeing the popularity of anti-migration policies, some of the other parties now shift torwards more anti-migration policies, too.

The German people have plenty of choice, and if a popular topic is ever not represented by the popular parties, it can quickly be made represented again.

(The reason I was assuming USA btw, is because another comment mentioned America. Also the USA is an easy example of a less democratic democracy.)

[–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What the fuck kind of bullshit are you on bro?

AfD is not anti-migration it's anti-migrant. Anti-migration is just a facade they use to hide their racism. They are interested in kicking out the migrants not just stopping more from coming to germany.

What they do want is wage-slaves, slaves that will come to germany and do anything they want them to do, live like they are told to live and leave when they want them to leave.

And its ironic how germany the so-called "we won't forget our nazi past" country now supports a neo-nazi party (they poll at 20%).

Alice weidel, AfD's chancellor candidate recently talked about how she longs for her grandfather's time. Her grandfather was an actual fucking Nazi.

AfD is also the same party whose leaders attended a neo-nazi conference at the start of 2024.

On the topic of democracy, 60% of Germans support a ban on arms deal to israel, how many parties support this? How many even acknowledge it?

Which democracy are you talking about?

[–] argon@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

Anti-migration is just a facade they use to hide their racism

How is that contrary to my point? Many people are anti migration and so an anti migration party was founded.

What the reason for being anti migration is, be it racism or something else, doesn't matter here.

how many parties support [stopping weapons trading with Israel]

That's why I explicitly said "popular" topic.

The reason anti-migration found it's way back into the Bundestag is because the voters care about migration policies.

The reason Israel arms deals aren't talked about much is because most voters don't give a fuck about what happens in the middle east.