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[–] TheEntity@lemmy.world 94 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Supporting nazism is quite illegal in many places. In Germany for sure.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Clearly not if the far right party exists in Germany and their leaders aren’t being sent to jail. In the eyes of German law the AfD are not nazi enough to be illegal.

[–] the_wise_wolf@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't know if these anti Nazi laws have ever been enforced in a rigorous manner. And most politicians are too afraid of doing it because the Nazis have growing support by the people. I'm pretty sure they could do more to fight the afd legally. But then again, they could also do more to satisfy voters, so they don't vote for extremist. Both is never going to happen.

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It is currently under legal review, though unfortunately caught up in Realpolitik and unlikely to go anywhere due to the government disbanding.

Fact is the center-right always has a bullshit reason to sit on their hands. They stopped the NPD review years ago saying they aren't popular enough to be a threat. Now with AfD they say they're too popular to be banned.

Institutions and laws are meaningless if they aren't used as intended.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Germany bans certain symbols, including the Nazi swastika, the Communist hammer and sickle, and the Hamas flag.

But it does not otherwise ban support of those organizations/ideologies.

[–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 1 points 19 hours ago

The hammer and sickle is not prohibited at all lol, or else the DKP would be banned

[–] Metz@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Of course they are banned. There is a long list with organisations and groups that were banned since 1951. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_in_Deutschland_verbotener_rechtsextremer_Organisationen

Not only symbols are prohibited. Extreme-Right / Facist / Nazis writings, music, images, videos, etc. are also banned.

Holocaust denial is forbidden. Historical relativism in relation to the Second World War is prohibited. etc.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Yes, the organizations themselves are banned.

Expressing support for them is not banned, unless accompanied by those symbols.

[–] Metz@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Admittedly, it is not enforced often enough and hard enough, but in general this falls under criminal organisations law.

German Criminal Code §129

Whoever supports such an organisation or recruits members or supporters for such an organisation incurs a penalty of imprisonment for a term not exceeding three years or a fine.

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

We're talking about twitter as a company and platform, not twitter users.