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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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Mod Visigoth_860@lemmy.cafe posted a really creepy and pro-pedophilia post at https://lemmy.cafe/post/11105990

Mod immediately bans the two people that call it out as trolls.

Update: post is locked after two more bans

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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 51 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

The post was deleted, but I was able to access it exploiting the fact that the deletion didn't federate with another instance. ~~Should I repost it here? Serious question, it's yucky but without the content of the post it's really hard to say something about it.~~

EDIT: archive link to the post. Discretion is advised.


Anyway. I'll focus on the claims made by the user, instead of assuming if he is or isn't a paedophile.

What people like that mod, or Richard Stallman, don't get, is:

  • consent is impaired if one person has power over another
  • the age gap gives you power

Beyond that all that talk about desire is a big red herring because attraction is shit inside your head, what matters is what you do.

I won't comment about remocrats vs. depublicans because I don't care about USA internal politics.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Dude the mental gymnastics this guy tries to put you through to try and justify trying to make leftists okay with him wanting to fuck 15 year olds is insane. And you can tell he thinks he’s WAY smarter than he actually is.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yup. The whole thing is a fallacious slop: fallacy of the beard, straw man, begging the question, so goes on. And as a result, he's defending something that is morally insane.

Those two are not the same:

  • a 20yo has sex with a 17yo; no payment is involved
  • a 42yo has sex with a 17yo; the 17yo is an escort

and yet he's trying to make both look like the same.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 3 points 12 hours ago

He’s also trying to posit the idea that the left is losing elections because they won’t embrace pedophilia and that is alienating male voters. Which is an insane take.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

or Richard Stallman,

Well, I learned something new and horrible today

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah. His opinions about software freedom are fairly solid, but when it comes to children and sexuality, he'd do everyone a favour if he simply shut up.

In his defence, though, I don't think that he's a paedophile; I think that he's just trying to extend his views about individual freedom into sexuality, but he's too socially clueless to get it right. And then the whole thing blew out of proportion because of both witch hunters and people exploiting it for political opposition.

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

Very good software people are not very good social people.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm ok with it just being mostly gone, but the choice is yours.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've archived it. I think that it's important for transparency.

Sadly I couldn't find the content of the comments of the two banned users. That modlog calling everyone "troll" strongly hints PTB, though.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 days ago

I've archived it. I think that it's important for transparency.

I appreciate that. On Reddit, it can be difficult to follow the breadcrumbs as stuff just gets nuked and we have to blindly trust OP.