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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This isn't gaslighting

It is though, because they're trying to convince you (and the government) that that's not the reason.

Search engines are a dead end. The future is a LLM that can tie its results to sources.

I'm pretty sure we've already seen that that's a dead end.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

2 things can be true… just because they omitted 1 reason doesn’t mean the other isn’t also true

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Making up reasons to assert gaslight is occurring is gaslighting. There is no proof Apple is lying.

This is an excellent example of not being able to reason someone out of a position they didn't use reason to get into.

Belief is not proof. If you want to pettle conspiracies, try 4chan.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 points 58 minutes ago

also very true

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That what's the reason? You haven't proposed their true motive, what sanity are they attempting to make us question because you don't appear to understand what gaslighting means. At best you think they are lying, which isn't gaslighting and is a really stupid thing to do around federal investigations.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I did all of that in my parent comment. It's only stupid if the government can prove it's not true, which they can't.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Apple: We're a search engine company and we don't want to be.

You: Zomg, gaslighting. Based on information I want to be true, Apple totally wants to be a search engine and wants to be!

The only one doing any gaslighting here is you.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

If you're just going to either not read or ignore the parent comment, I'm certainly not about to type it out so you can do it all over again. Goodnight.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 hours ago

You started with the statement, "as always, Apple is gaslighting you" -- that is quire the statement, you cannot support it but you are insist it's true, insisting that I accept it as part of my reality.

That is gaslighting.

One of the fun things with people who gaslight is their inability to recognize their gaslighting. It's also possible you don't understand the term.

You refusing to back down from such a strong and unsupported statement makes me think it's the later and that I'm involved in the sort of argument one is never supposed to involve themselves them in. Something about taking you down to their level and betting you with experience.