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[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Is there a good ELI5 what this entire dispute is about anywhere? I have been reading many news stories about it, but they all seemed to assume I already knew about it.

[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

A very short summary that may not be entirely accurate but is close enough:

WP Engine made a good amount of money off of WordPress without contributing back, and Automattic broke their own license to fight them, all the while the CEO became increasingly unhinged.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh no! “not contributing back” for free software managed by a profit driven company.

Automattic’s actions have proven exactly why WPEngine shouldn’t pay them squat.

[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 weeks ago

I present: the reason we can't have nice things.

[–] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Does WP Engine have much of a product without Automattic’s blessing? How much damage has already been done implanting into a WP Engine’s customer’s mind that they should start thinking about alternatives?

Is it anything other than a sinking ship?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 29 points 2 weeks ago

WP Engine doesn't need Automattic's blessing. Wordpress is GPL software.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The whole thing has implanted into the mind of any wordpress user paying attention they should start thinking about alternatives.

[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

100% this: the sole owner of the foundation, trademark, and primary web portal has come across as absolutely unhinged, vengeful, and petty as all hell.

If I had any wordpress sites that I relied on professionally/ran a business on/made money with I'd be SERIOUSLY investigating any option that didn't involve wordpress since the last thing I want is my business on software beholden to someone who is perfectly willing to be visibly nuts online.

Not a good thing for stability in general, you know?

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I was honestly surprised how unstable the Automattic CEO sounded. He is literally sabotaging his own company/product/project.

It's a public mental implosion.

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

I think this is like a parallel situation as seen in the Reddit ceo driving migration to lemmy.

The wp meltdown was destructive and healthy at the same time. A minority of wp users will look into alternatives, which will help make those better to use because the devs get more support, and/or the alternative communities and ecosystems start to grow

[–] LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

I understand they made some code contributions (no sources to hand right now) and also made / sponsored the WPGraphQL and Advanced Custom Fields plugins. The first, Automattic poached the developer; the second, Automattic rebranded it and removed any mention of WPE.

Not saying that WPE is beyond reproach; just not sure it's 100% accurate to say they didn't contribute anything back at all

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 weeks ago

thanks, the first one helped me understand it

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

You got several TLDRs

Here's a longer play by play, with most of the details, if your interested:

https://techcrunch.com/2024/12/10/wordpress-vs-wp-engine-drama-explained/