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cross-posted from: https://discuss.online/post/14195662

This is in regards to the brand-new !AskUSA@discuss.online community.

And by more serious discussions I mean e.g. the legality of the recent jury nullification issue, which I don't want to allow if I were a moderator in it.

If you say yes you will be granted the community "ownership" as the sole moderator. I've only been a mod myself on Lemmy for less than a day but we'll figure out how to transfer it to you. You can ofc always add new mods and change it however you like after that. The advantage here is chiefly that you get the community "name" AskUSA, whereupon I could later create e.g. a CasualUSA but you would have the privileges of that specific name, to match the style of e.g. AskUK or AskLemmy (or AskScience or AskMen or AskElectronics or AskAndroid etc. - there are so many here using that style:-).

I don't want to be involved in something that is going to constantly be depressing to me, though I do recognize the need for such and am offering the community "name" if someone else wants to pick up that mantle.

While if nobody says yes then I suppose I'll just keep it going in the more CasualUSA light-hearted style, until such time as someone does. Either way I'll offer to help grow it by posting and commenting to it regularly - unless you want me to stop b/c I tend to be really bad at guessing what people want to see (e.g. personally I love John Oliver and also got involved in the Reddit protests, so why people are downvoting sexy pics of JO on Lemmy of all places... I seriously have no clue).

The community also needs moderators to help in general - so even if you don't want to take it over, would you like to help moderate it if it were to remain a more casual, light-hearted community?

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[–] admiralpatrick@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Yeah, Midwest doesn't seem too bad overall. I wasn't aware of the admin's stances on things until recently, though. I'm not considering defederating or blocking them or anything like that, though the stance on calling for violence and doxxing has caused me some policy problems.

I think using your LW account should be fine? Or perhaps we should add both your dubvee.org and LW accounts

Probably just the LW one would be fine. I already switch back and forth regularly to mod a couple communities on LW anyway.

then go through the procedure above in order for you to be merely a mod but not at the top

I made that a lot easier to handle in Tesseract through the mod team management panel, but the one thing I'm not clear on is if only admins can transfer the community or if the "top mod" can as well (I think both, but don't hold me to that). There's also a Lemmy bug where "top mod" can do things that admins even can't (which i need to submit an issue for, but I forget the exact circumstances to trigger it, and it's annoying to recover from lol).

Beehaw for most of my time on the Fediverse, but now that I do I kinda like it - and yet don't (or at least am not entirely sure) at the same time, b/c I saw for instance people advocating for actual murder there

Yeah, I'm not sure. I squash that kind of rhetoric pretty quickly locally (regardless of who it's directed at). I do know they mod heavily, but there definitely seems to be some lag (I don't think they have community mods; the admin team is also the mod team for all their communities). I don't think I ever checked back on some of the stuff I reported to see how it was handled.

But I don't know if you would be able to see those from dubvee.org?

No, I would have to federate with an instance to see content from there, even if it's relayed through a third instance (DO in this case).

I don't block any users on my LW account, and Tesseract has some safeguards in place so that if you block an instance the content from that instance still shows up in communities you're a moderator of (e.g. I did block .ml on my LW account, and I typically don't see any content from its users except in the communities I moderate there).

[–] OpenStars 3 points 2 weeks ago

I’m not considering defederating or blocking them or anything like that

Oh I had not thought that far ahead - well, wrt your instance anyway - so those were just my own thoughts along parallel lines:-).

There’s also a Lemmy bug where “top mod” can do things that admins even can’t

It would actually make sense if a top mod could transfer ownership whereas an admin could not, presuming there was also a way to revoke a top mod position. I have seen admins join a community as a mod then leave it (e.g. https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=ModAddCommunity&modId=5903942 like BuyItForLife), so presumably that could be what is happening there, where they become top mod themselves then transfer in that capacity rather than as mod.

I do know they [Beehaw] mod heavily, but there definitely seems to be some lag

Hrm that could explain it. I don't see the post anymore that I would have thought would have done it - https://beehaw.org/post/17149294, with title "Donald Trump Has Not Won a Majority of the Votes Cast for President" - so despite the many tens of upvotes in it that I saw... well, indeed these are tumultous times.

No, I would have to federate with an instance to see content from there, even if it’s relayed through a third instance

That is what I feared - so the defederation lists must match exactly, for this type of cross-instance modding, or else what you do not know can very much hurt the users in the gaps in-between them. Assuming that cross-instance modding works at all, which according to Blaze it might not.

We may need to do still more hijinks but we can see how it shakes out?!:-)

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Probably just the LW one would be fine. I already switch back and forth regularly to mod a couple communities on LW anyway.

Remote accounts don't get the reports

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4744

[–] admiralpatrick@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ah, yeah, I think I knew that (or realized it anecdotally) though wasn't aware there was an actual bug for it . I just switch between my two accounts to check throughout the day which works around that, but those communities are all on LW.

I guess I could just switch between all 3 and use my DO one for this (no big deal since I can have multiple profiles).

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

That would be great!