this post was submitted on 06 Dec 2024
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Hi. I banned you from !europe for 3 days, because you were arguing in bad faith. Cheers. 2 months ago sunzu2
As long as the key comments stay up, my work is done. Thanks :) 2 months ago federalreverse
What kind of "work" is it that you're doing? 2 months ago sunzu2
Providing historical context for the avg reader 2 months ago federalreverse
Phew. You must have a weird definition of context if "VW sucks at electric cars and may close factories" and "Porsche family built their fortune diring Nazi era" seem related. But I guess we discussed this. 2 months ago sunzu2
My comment was in response to the guy who was downplaying role nazis played in VW and still play to this day. Y'all keep framing like it ain't a thing... 2 months ago federalreverse
Nobody was downplaying Nazism. You were just 100% beside the point. The original comment (which I deleted) was literally just "Desperately clinging on to their Nazi roots, as always" (by DavidGarcia). Then GrandNagus replied that Nazism isn't relevant in the context of VW's current financial issues. And then you started replying. 2 months ago sunzu2
I took issue with "completely" whem VW's key shareholder is a nazi family who made large part of their wealth from being nazis.
I was not responding to the OP but rather comment specifically. Grandnagus is down playing VW's nazi affiliation that it is not relevant. Different mind can disagree but as long as historical context is left for readers to see.
Also their financial issues are self inflicted but the labour must suffer... Is this nazi? Or just human condition? 2 months ago federalreverse
The Porsche family is historically associated with Nazis. So far, so bad.
However, you seem to be alleging that they are currently nazis or supporters of fascism. And I don't see any public proof of that -- please do enlighten me.
Seriously -- no. It is 100% irrelevant, there are no two reasonable opinions here. What you're providing with such ferocity is not context relevant to the news at hand. If you continue on insisting that it is relevant, you make a very good case for a permaban.
Their financial troubles do not stem from them being racist. Their corporate logic is just the usual capitalist fare.
GrandNagus did not downplay their Nazi past, rather they tried to limit the discussion to a reasonable
It's the usual capitalist bullshit. Big corporates act like this all the time. If anything, VW being part-owned by the state of Lower Saxony means that they are more focused on labor representation (at least in Germany) than other corporates. 2 months ago federalreverse
2 months ago federalreverse
Hi. I gave you a 14-day ban from !europe, ban reason is "racism" but that's just part of the issue for me. I'd like to ask you to define for me what you mean when speak about the German "regime" 2 months ago sunzu2
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/regime 2 months ago sunzu2
For more context you can read my body of work, it clearly covers this topic. Also, "racism" is the pretext for the ban, let be real here lol 2 months ago federalreverse
So, transparently, "racism" is not the ideal ban reason. I wanted to stop the discussion before it festered too much and didn't think too much of it. Sorry. I suspect "trolling" or "misinformation" may have been closer. I don't think there's a way to add a message to a (possible) unban, so I may not be able to publicly clarify.
I don't quite want to read your body of work. However, please clarify for me: Is what you're calling the "regime" is the currently governing coalition in Germany? Do you use that term in a neutral sense? 2 months ago