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As per .world worldnews mod, no discussing naughty stuff like jury nullification.

While this post is blowing up, here's the book referenced by the shooter:

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Jury nullification: A practical FAQ

Do I have to answer questions about jury nullification?

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[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Juries wouldn't work if it didn't exsist.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In practice, sort of. It's a symptom or side effect of two other really good ideas:

  • A jury cannot be in any way punished for any verdict they reach.

  • One cannot be tried for the same offense twice if it is acquitted. Technical term for this is "double jeopardy." A guilty verdict can be appealed but a not guilty verdict is absolutely final.

The shapes of these two principles are such that they cannot interlock in any way that does not leave room for jury nullification.

[–] DogWater@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And saying those words in jury duty will get you tossed immediately from selection lol

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I would love to make this into some viral tiktok craze or something. Because...

The powers that be don't want it to exist. Because we've got a whole system of legislatures and executives and judges to bicker about what the laws actually are but because the jury has to be the final say and we can't allow double jeopardy, it all comes down to twelve random citizens on a case by case basis.

Wouldn't it be fun to live in a world where every last person understands this and it's not a question they can disqualify on?

[–] DogWater@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Man that would really upend case law lol