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[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 327 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The ceo is a bigoted asshole, Brave is chromium, it was initially funded by Peter Thiel and they're literally just trying to make their own adsense network.

The self-proclaimed privacy focused browser is tracking your browsing and want to serve you personalized ads, and I think they want to use that tracking data for AI training as well, meaning other people can potentially access it.

And lets not forget about their crypto currency that you can earn by turning on special ads. Which they seemingly unironically called it "Basic Attent Tokens"..

TL;DR: The company is basically a sham company trying to usher in a dystopia. Where you'll get paid for staring at ads, while having all your data stolen and sold back to you.

[–] sic_1@feddit.de 94 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I see no reason to use any other browser than Firefox and maybe Librewolf.

[–] Obstagoon@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] astropenguin5@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah top 4 browser are Firefox, librewolf, tor, and mull~vad~ for sure.

[–] mcz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

mull and mullvad are at least two different things

[–] CapnAssHolo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Autocorrect so strong it turns your browser into a VPN

[–] Amilo159@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Firefox on desktop is awesome. Firefox on mobile is painful.

[–] Darth_Vader__@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Android firefox is ok now. Moreover now it supports add ons too and there are some good add ons there.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's a very small number of add-ons, but one of them is uBlock Origin, and that's all I really want.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can just change the list of supported add-ons to whatever you like.

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only if you tie your browser with an account at Mozilla. No way to do it without an account.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

Only if you need your list. Otherwise you can just switch the list I'd to one including your extensions

[–] Fissionami@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Where can I change this list?

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In the settings under "custom add-on list". You might need to enter dev mode, which you do by tapping the Firefox logo in the about menu 5 times (you get a toast with your progress).

After that you enter the userID ND the collection name in the popup and confirm.

Details:

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/extended-add-support

And a reddit comment with a list you can use:

https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/j1ta1s/comment/g720d72/

[–] Darth_Vader__@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

If firefox gets more popular then maybe more add ons can appear..

at least they support add ons like CHROME

[–] HorseFD@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

What’s wrong with Firefox on iOS? I realise it’s WebKit with a Firefox skin, but it seems to work well enough.

[–] Amilo159@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago

User interface is poor. Cannot customise the gui at all so I feel like it's a downgrade over Samsung browser that also supports ad blocks.

[–] Voyajer@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

It works pretty well for me, but I use Firefox nightly.

[–] mrsgreenpotato@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am using Brave on iOS mainly because of its superb YouTube support - It has a built in ad block, can download videos offline and play minimized. Is there any way I can achieve this with any other browser? I would switch immediately.

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I am forced to use Chromium on my work laptop because MS Teams doesn't work (all the features) on Firefox.

Edit: I should elaborate this a bit. There are 2 reasons why I use Chromium on my machine.

  1. If I face a problem, company tech team only knows Chrome and they start crying when I open Firefox.
  2. On Linux, the official way to use Teams is through a web-app and Firefox doesn't support PWAs.

All other MS services function fine on Firefox.

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Which features I've never had an issue

[–] vettnerk@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Same. I use furefox for everything* at work, despite everything being heavily integrated with teams, sharepoint, et.al.

*: The only thing that doesn't work with firefox is this inhouse web service that hasn't been updated since 2017. It's about to be replaced anyway, so nobody bothered to fix/update it.

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

The custom background effects don't work on Firefox

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Simple one-to-one calling is disabled saying it's only available on Chrome. I'm pretty sure it's recent since I had calls a few months back on Firefox. I'm also sure that it's not some group policy since I'm on Ubuntu without any sort of ActiveDirectory so it's a pure browser issue. Also, they force the old UI in Firefox due to some reason. Typical BS from Microsoft.

[–] QuazarOmega@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Does changing user agent mitigate some of those issues?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In a just world, the fact of changing the user agent fixing the issues would make for a slam-dunk anti-trust case.

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

If you confront Microsoft with this, then they will say they don't have enough resources to test "thousands" of browsers which is why they have restricted their efforts to Chromium only, while making billions of dollars in profits each year.

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've tried it today and yeah, 1-to-1 calls magically/unsurprisingly start working. In fact, the whole UI gets a facelift and lots of new features.

If I had to guess, I'd say Microsoft keeps around a version of their UI, which hasn't been maintained in over a year, and serves that to anyone initiating communication with a user-agent string they don't like.

If that's true, that's a massive security vulnerability. Admittedly, also unsurprising for Microsoft. @xavier666@lemm.ee

[–] QuazarOmega@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Wow, that's egregious on so many levels!
This kind of browser apartheid should be illegal

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thanks a lot for this...time to get an extension.

[–] dan@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

I use Firefox as my primary browser and run the teams app.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

they start crying when I open Firefox.

Good. Use it anyway, and bathe in their tears!

[–] n3m37h@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] tomaThomas@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

They claim to be decent, but it's closed source so who knows...