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WTF does NATO have anything to do with Israel or Palestine?!
WTF would leaving NATO have any effect on Israel or Palestine?!
WTF are these people even on about?
NATO isn't helping Israel... (while some NATO members might be, that's not NATO)
It's not NATO's job to get involved with with Israel or Palestine...
Russian propaganda had its way to them
The idea is to dethrone the US from global power because people are sick of us having our boot on their necks.
But the alternative is China wearing the boot and they've proven they would kill every non Han in the world
Idk why you're being downvoted, you gave a pretty fair description of the situation. Even the Han bit, China doesn't have any anti-discrimination laws and they're more than 90% Han Chinese.
While I hope we can get our shit together in Europe to form a strong alliance that does not depend on the totalitarian US come next year, I'd say that 1) your statement is ragebait bullshit and 2) killing the non-whatever-ethnicity seems very similar to the Gravy Seals policy of the orange fat fuck and his MAGA dipshits.
The Uyghurs were all put in camps idiot. The ones who refused to abandon their culture are still in the camps or dead.
China is 92% Han and growing, the CCP has chosen to embrace an ethnostate
Learn to process reality
Look who you are calling an idiot, dipshit. Just because I call your generalisation bullshit doesn't mean I am not aware of ongoing genocides.
"Genocide is bad, but.."
Sorry that's all i heard, you making excuses for genocide
We already established you have zero reading comprehension.
and who could that be, I wonder... hmmm... /s
PS: I kind of despise NATO, but I see the necessity versus the current Putler regime - thanks to Putler being fucking stupid enough to overreach and become the unquestionable aggressor in Europe.
What's wrong with NATO?
You clearly haven't read any news in the past 40 years...
That is a non-answer. You suck.
Not international really. Mostly just things happening in my country and neighbours.
Well - if you are not following the news, I doubt there's much for me to be gained investing my time to give you a (biased) summary.
Alright. Thanks for the reply though.
In the last UK election, an old-school tankie named George Galloway ran a party. One of his candidates, a former professional cricketer IIRC, called for the UK to pull out of NATO to better control immigration. To his credit, he withdrew his candidacy and dropped out of politics a week later once it became apparent how far out of his depth he was.
Galloway's more a wide-spectrum troll than a tankie. In his last campaign, he was putting out contradictory campaign materials in Muslim and non-Muslim neighbourhoods.
He was at one point a self-described Stalinist, which is probably as tankie as one can get. He also doesn’t seem to have ever encountered a dictator he didn’t hail as a liberator, though that’s consistent with the usual tankie/campist brainworms (“all evil comes from Washington, therefore anyone who opposes Washington is a hero of the revolution”).
Newsflash: people are generally fucking dumb and have ever only the vaguest idea of what they are talking about.
The vote was for NATO to demand that the conflict come to an end by September 2025. It is an advisory vote, NATO has no authority.
As you can see, the vote succeeded. NATO's position is to the conflict to end.
Now the protesters want Canada to pull out of NATO because what? NATO agrees with them?
Huh no it's the result of a UN vote about the end of palestine occupation. You can notice the US/UK/Germany/Eastern Europe axis clearly aligned with US interests.
That map is not the flex you think it is. I see 12 members of NATO voted for and 15 abstained. Only the US, Canada and Czechia voted against. If anything, it says that NATO is not as monocephalic as most tankies like to portray. Canada is the one giving NATO a bad name on this vote, not the reverse, lol.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_218165.htm
https://www.politico.eu/article/nato-backs-israel-and-warns-iran-to-stay-away-gaza-hamas-netanyah/
There is a very good reason the Irish care about Neutrality. The Montrealites are not so different.
Edit: Thank you Chairman Meow for telling me about this: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/turkey-blocks-nato-israel-cooperation-over-gaza-war-sources-say-2024-08-01/
LOL you really thought nobody was going to check the dates on those articles? Hmm, I wonder if anything happened in Palestine since last October.
NATO has not changed its position, that's the thing.
It has, it was forced to by Turkey: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/turkey-blocks-nato-israel-cooperation-over-gaza-war-sources-say-2024-08-01/
All joint exercises and meetings were stopped and nothing w.r.t. aid for Israel was approved. All vetoed.
Damn, TIL. Thank you.
And for the first time in my life, thank you Erdogan.
Holy shit, can't believe I actually have common ground with Erdogan.
Broken clock and all that
Too bad he can't do what he preaches e.g. Kurds.