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I get your points and they are well taken. Just be careful not to swing at ghosts so hard that you hit those who would have made great allies.
Not every one who voted Blue is a "fair-weather friend". Frankly, I bet you would be surprised with how many would be willing to push for something better if given the opportunity.
And sometimes, people just need to be given the chance. The disagreements are meaningful, but the shit slinging is not. And I'm afraid we have traded in meaningful discussion for pure shit slinging.
Every 'Vote Blue No Matter Who' absolutely are fair weather friends. it means you don't actually understand what you're voting for and have no principles for which you'd hold the line. If you wouldn't hold the line for a group experiencing a genocide you are not worth putting our group on the line for.
You can absolutely continue to try papering over what the DNC and dems like the OP just did to the palestinians but there isnt an argument on this blue earth that will result in my forgiving of it. The only option for those individuals is repentance.
Oh, okay, well I just checked with all the "Vote Blue No Matter Who" people, and everyone repented. Crazy I know, but every single one. Completed the repentance ceremony and everything. So we can all agree to work towards the greater good now right?
What's that? Still no!? Is that because you were never arguing in good faith? Wow, I sure am shocked.
Look friend, I'm not interested in dying on pointless hills. Not while there are still things worth fighting for. If you have found your hill, I wish you luck holding it.
repenting takes actions. let me know when democrats start putting up decent candidates (read: non-genocidal, pro workers) and we'll talk. right now you're just a fucking shit stain who wants to paper over their support for a genocide by saying 'well my candidate lost, lets be friends now!'
no. fuck you. you were literally willing to condemn people to death for your own comfort.
You already died on the hill, now you need to fucking put effort into fucking fix the problem people like you have created. I'll be over here with my popcorn; but I suspect next election cycle we'll hear the exact same nonsense coming from your corner of the room.
You don't even understand what arguing in good faith fucking means. First there never was an argument going on. We. were. telling. you. what. needed. to. happen. to. receive. our. votes. You needed them to win, they had a price tag. you failed to meet the price tag and you fucking lost as a result and are now pissy.
Secondly good faith is required by both parties for it to be applicable and there never was any 'good faith' from your side.