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i can't even guess as to why they went quiet. not one guess at all. we will never know.

edit: well they're not quiet now once they get called out

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[–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (3 children)

Another day, another Lemmy post blaming leftists instead of Republicans, conservatives, racists, and their enablers.

[–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 2 points 18 minutes ago (1 children)

Well republicans, conservatives and racists are the minority. Had everybody left of them voted, the US wouldn't be on track to become a fascistoid autocracy.

[–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 1 points 9 minutes ago

But everyone left of them didn't vote, and I think there are certainly more non-voting liberals than non-voting leftists, so focusing on an even smaller minority of Pro-Palestinian abstainers is silly.

Only 64% of the Voting Eligible Population turned out in 2024, what percentage of that 36% remaining do you really think is Pro-Palestinians that couldn't stomach Harris?

[–] Antiproton@programming.dev 1 points 21 minutes ago (1 children)

It's not blaming leftists. It's blaming people too fucking stupid to vote.

[–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 1 points 19 minutes ago

Do you have any facts that show it was Pro-Palestinians that failed to show up? Instead of America just wanting the reactionary populism?

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 39 minutes ago (1 children)

Not instead of, but as well as.

[–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 1 points 20 minutes ago

It's not leftists' fault at all that a centrist party lost to a far right party. Please provide any proof whatsoever that it was Pro-Palestinian voters that caused Democrats to lose the popular vote, the electoral college, the house, and the senate.

[–] agrantgreen@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 hours ago

One of the candidates was against Palestinian genocide??

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 8 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

They are certainly responsible for Trump doing what they will do. No amount of mental gymnastics can make that go away. You had a vote, it was what it was, you had to accept reality or live in a bubble roleplaying that your vote was something it was not.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, if Trump lied about his intentions it would be one thing, but he's been very clear that he doesn't care how many brown Muslims Bibi wants to kill to steal their land.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, don't worry, their mental gymnastics will allow them to smugly blame the DNC while the world falls to pieces.

They'll fart into their glasses and huff while recounting how it was the DEMS fault for being unattractive, even while the fascists dismantle the checks and balances, pass a federal ban on abortion, Russia slaughters Ukrainian men, women, and elderly by the thousands and ships their children off to Russia to be prepatrioted.

They'll say Isreal would have done the same under Harris as they completely repell or slaughter the remaining Palestinians out of the west bank and move on to Lebenon.

They'll shrug as hundreds of thousands of immigrants, illegal or otherwise, and rounded up and thrown in camps or shipped over the border with no recourse besides an intentionally ineffective appeals process if they actually happened to be here legally.

Etc. Etc.

They'll just blame it on the Dems. Just like they have done since 2016. And they'll feel great about it.

[–] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

DNC couldn't promise not to assist a genocide. Is that not crazy to you? Does the fact leftists didn't vote really come higher on your "that's crazy" meter than both parties being pro genocide just differing on degrees of genocide? No self reflection about that?

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

If you thought the people who were critical of the Democrats went quite after the election, you're saying more about the echo chamber you've built for yourself than anything else.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 points 3 hours ago

Lemmy.world bans all of the prominent voices

Libs: "Where's all of your criticism now, COMMIES?!????"

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 26 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

The only people making noise are the centrists looking to blame everyone but themselves for a sweep of all the levers of government, and a gradual loss of the judiciary that will doom the republic. It was an epic asswipping of historic proportions with you lot leading and owning the losing strategy. You dont even have the diginity to be embarrassed about it.

You geniuses lost voters across every single demographic except college educated whites, flatly ignored the economic hardship of the lower and middle class and told people they were delusional to talk about it, and on top of that they enabled and participated in obvious far right war crimes. You lost minority and youth support and trust across the board. And you have no way of earning it back beyond your same tired playbook of being slightly better than Trump, on just a few issues.

Even if Harris had done the right, legal, moral thing and indicated she'd halt the shipments, she still would have lost on her idiotic low-polling economic policy that polled the same as Joe Bidens presidency. So you all supported war crimes and soiled the dem name for basically no gain at all. You doomed the republic, soiled the global understanding of "democracy", and showed the western world order to be a hollow shell of what it once was, where laws and justice dont really matter. All so the DNC elites could take some zionist bribes on a single election cycle, which you then lost. Heck of a job. Its hard to imagine screwing the globe any more thoroughly. Its breathtaking. You couldnt have done a more thorough job if you were maga republican fascists yourselves.

[–] mochisuki@lemmy.world 13 points 7 hours ago

I was going to just block the author of this post and move on but your comment so beautifully and clearly expressed everything I was thinking about their asinine lack of self awareness, I had to just at least thank you for taking the time to patiently engage despite knowing full well they refuse to learn.

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[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 25 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (7 children)

So let me get this straight:

The Democratic Party snubs the left— even the progressives. They court the right wing, parading the Cheneys around.

The democrats lose.

The rightwing voters get riled up by the mask-off hatred, while their politicians straight up lie to Muslims and Latino people, winning some of their votes.

The democrats lose ground across the board. Their entire turnout was depressed. No matter how many times they learned their views were losing them votes, they refuse to budge on the issues they were undoubtedly wrong about. The fuckin meme says “we didn’t vote for genocide!!!” We can all agree voting…for genocide is…bad, right?

And you’re blaming the people who were ignored and told once again to go fuck themselves? Because they couldn’t stomach voting for people publicly and unflinchingly supporting the genocide.

Not the lying fascists, not the losing party for being told they were going to fail and still failing?

This is exactly how you continue to fail and lose to fascists.

And im telling you right now. History won’t look back and say “those fools! They didn’t vote because of a teensy little genocide!” They will say “all of those people stood by while a holocaust was happening.”

Not a doubt in my mind.

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[–] Maeve@midwest.social 0 points 3 hours ago

Some of us have real lives to get on with and are willing to do the work behind the scenes, while we get on with that. My community has buried three since the since the end of October, two have recently been diagnosed with cancer and another two are in stage four. There are also considerations of paying bills. Just because we're not wallowing in self-pity doesn't make anyone anything other than busy. Mutual aid, direct action. Voting for the major parties isn't the answer.

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