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[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

She would have won MI easily. Possibly PA. Then WI would only have been necessary.

The far left vote would have handed her the Presidency. And you guys will eat a big plate of shit served by Trump himself for making that mistake.

[–] doomcanoe@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I consider myself to be on the far left, and I voted for Kamala. Quit making us a scapegoat, please. Oversimplification feels nice I know, but it's not actually accurate or helpful.

[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] doomcanoe@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Uhhh... Okay, thanks for the articles, but they leave me a bit confused as to your point.

The first is just about respondents to AOC's Instagram post asking people who voted for her and Trump "why", and many cited Gaza as a key concern. And the second article cites a fairly limited exit poll, known for their unreliability, saying many Muslim Americans voted third part.

Neither article even references the "Far Left", nor do they present evidence that a complete shift in these votes would have changed the elections outcome.

So... Yeah, thanks again for sharing I guess? And I guess these are good articles to suggest maybe the Dems should have focused more on Gaza. But they don't really justify the claim that the "far left vote would have handed her the presidency".

[–] AliSaket@mander.xyz 0 points 1 day ago

Two take-aways from your post:

  1. I read a lot of "would" and "possibly" there. And in the end the implication is that she still wouldn't have won.
  2. Calling out a government for its role in the crime of crimes is now considered far left. Gotcha.

Until now I haven't seen a single thorough analysis, with absolute numbers especially compared to 2020. You know, so we can base our assumptions and opinions a bit more on reality. Most I'm seeing are opinions (including my own) and if I'm lucky, then an article highlighting a single isolated aspect, that might or might not be a relevant factor.