For Agitprop purposes, I’m asking comrades to help aggregate any and all effortpost responses, critiques, or general thoughts that you have seen or written pertaining to yesterday’s U.S. election that you think have standalone value for discussion either online or IRL.

I made a post for that purpose here, and ideally it can be used not only for general discussion, but as a reference for well thought out responses in discussions about the election to save all of us some brainpower.

No shitposts please, as we’d like to highlight some comrades’ actual effort in constructing responses or analysis, but humor is 100% welcome to help make your point!

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[–] TheGamingLuddite@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just a reminder when these people say "Ukraine is fucked", what they mean is they believe Trump will have a less hawkish policy toward Ukraine than Biden. That he'll pump fewer weapons into a barbaric WWI-style meat grinder in eastern Europe and engage in diplomacy. Something that likely isn't even true.

[–] edge@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

"Ukraine is fucked" to libs means losing some land and/or having a pro-Russia government. The people dying don't matter.

Something that likely isn't even true.

Ukraine has been Biden's project since he was VP. Trump on the other hand holds no hate for Russia and even clashed with Zelenskyy. He'll be happy to drop them. Especially as revenge for his first impeachment and loss to Biden. Plus he has Israel as an excuse.

[–] TheGamingLuddite@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Republican party is still controlled in part by the defense blob. If anything he'll pull a nixon and find a way to prolong the war while pretending to end it.

[–] edge@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

He has other battles to hawk over. Like I said he has Israel as an excuse. "We need to stop sending weapons to Ukraine so we can send them to Israel."

Plus he'll probably start stoking things with Iran even further.