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I guess I underestimated just how many americans have a problem with a PoC + Woman candidate, perhaps it was an error from the dems to not run a white guy at this moment.
It wouldn't have mattered.
The numbers showed turnout on the left was pathetic compared to 2020, while turnout on the right was basically the same.
The monsters always win in the long run because they're fanatics and don't stop to think.
Eh. This was one of the chief concerns for those of us that resisted Biden stepping down that late in the race. No time for a primary, so Harris had to be the candidate. I was pleasantly surprised at the great reception she enjoyed for the first month, but the hype obviously didn't reach far beyond the solidly blue base.
The only reason there was not enough time was because Biden took his time abdicating. We had more than enough time for primaries had Biden stepped down earlier.
White women, latino men, etc. It's just sad to see.
Don't play dumb, she was unpopular with the left and did nothing to help with it. "Eat it up because otherwise it's trump" doesn't get you votes.
It wasn't a good reason not to vote for her, but unfortunately is one of the reasons some people didn't vote. She should have never gone negative and stuck to positive messaging about how they had real plans to help real people.
She should have focused on courting Democrats instead of being all chummy with a Cheney.
The problem with that is that Democrats' insistence on incrementalism in all things had destroyed their credibility when they say that they'll help people. No, they'll start some investigations, throw up a hurdle in their own path, gleefully announce that it's insurmountable, and then scream that everyone who saw what they just did doesn't know how government works.
You can't just ignore how the government works and the fact that Democrats never had a real majority in the Senate thanks to Sinema and Manchin.
We gave Democrats enough seats. They used them predictably.
No, we didn't. They had 48 seats, which is not enough to accomplish anything.
You're ignoring that 2 independents caucus with Democrats. It's dishonest to exclude them. But you're splitting hairs because it's convenient for your excuses.
Two independents from conservative states that barely align with democrats. Why do you handwave this away so easily???
One of the independents is Bernie Sanders.
Manchin and Sinema were both capital-D Democrats at the time they did everything you wanted.
If they didn't vote with the Dems when it actually mattered, why should they count?
THEY DID. Unlike Manchin and Sinema, independents caucused with the party.
The Democratic caucus had 50 seats. We gave them the seats. They used them like you wanted.
I am talking about Sinema and Manchin only. They may have had a D next to their name, but they were not on the side of Democrats when it mattered.
And we gave Democrats those seats.
Lying and saying that we only gave Democrats 48 just because 2 of them did everything you wanted doesn't mean that we didn't give Democrats what they needed.
You can write that all day today and all next week, they still won’t understand.