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submitted 13 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) by Blaze@feddit.org to c/fedimemes@feddit.uk
 

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The main arguments for people to defederate are

  • "Embrace, extend, and extinguish" strategy: https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html
  • A potential federation with Threads (should Thread decide to implement it) would overwhelm Lemmy/Mbin/Piefed with millions of users (compared to the 40k monthly current active users), transforming those platforms into a threaded version of Facebook
  • Defederating preventively costs nothing

LW stance: https://lemmy.world/post/1274909?scrollToComments=true

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[–] Voyajer@lemmy.world 104 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (3 children)

I have yet to see any threads content anyway.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The best if you don't have to. If you thought Twitter's nonexistent moderation was bad, then get ready for Meta's moderation.

People can post trans suicide memes, people can post outright hate speech, no action. Call a "moderate conservative" a "mean person", racist, etc., action within 24 hours, multiple-day ban.

[–] scott@authorship.studio 4 points 4 hours ago

@ZILtoid1991

If you thought Twitter’s nonexistent moderation was bad, then get ready for Meta’s moderation.

To be fair, there is no global moderation on the fediverse. Anyone can start up their own instance with their own rules, or lack thereof. But that is also a plus since you or your server administrator decide how to moderate content, rather than depending on the decisions of some mega company's moderation team.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 17 points 10 hours ago

So it's working.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 42 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Exactly. I still don't know what the whole kerfuffle is about.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 40 points 12 hours ago

One concern is that since threads has a massive userbase and similar volume of content, it is basically a full reservoir and when it starts to federate content it will be like the dam bursting. Even if there is a need for a user on lemmy.world to do something to start federating content, like subscribing to communities, but all it would take is a bot that subscribes to a bunch of popular content to both fill the All feed and prompt a massive number of API calls.

If the hardware is up to the task, the other concern is the threads content overwhelming existing communities, and since a bunch of meta content is bot driven and malicious that would be a crazy amount of moderation that is likely needed to keep it from causing issues and driving away the existing userbase.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 26 points 12 hours ago

Lemmy is niche and therefore is heavily populated by techies but more specifically lemmy is open source so these techies are specifically the type who like open source stuff. Threads and the corporation responsible for it have a financial incentive to oppose open source projects like this. So the community most ideologically tied to lemmy want nothing to do with it. They want to preserve their space that they have made as free of the influences of capital as possible. The very existence of threads is a threat.