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King Felipe VI of Spain faced a hostile crowd in Valencia, where unprecedented floods have devastated communities, leaving over 200 dead and many missing. Footage shows protesters shouting “murderer” and “shame” at the king, with some throwing objects and mud as he walked through the affected area of Paiporta.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Much more recently, Germans put a bunch of my ancestors in ovens. I don't hold a grudge with the ones who had nothing to do with it (i.e. almost every German alive today).

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Germany was forced to clean up house, though.

Franco died in bed (in extreme agony, apparently; the only good thing the bastard ever did; but still), naming his successor, whose son is the current unelected parasite on the throne. The dictator's children and grandchildren are public figures, celebrated and followed by embarrassingly large portions of the population.

The murderers and torturers who worked for him kept their jobs, were forgiven all their crimes, and their children and grandchildren succeed them (old money and contacts in high places go a long way towards winning elections).

The supposed "transition" merely put some new wallpaper on top of the existing structures, with a watered down constitution voted under military threats: vote for it, or else, even going as far as staging a coup attempt so that Franco's successor could "save the day", become a hero, and water the new supposed democracy down even further.

Do not compare Spain to Germany. It's extremely insulting to Germany.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Last I checked, Franco did not sire the entire Spanish population. Who you are blaming for things that happened before any of them were born.

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Franco did not sire the entire Spanish population.

No, but he did kill, or drive into exile or poverty and political irrelevance anyone who didn't share his views.

Most of the surviving population, especially the ones with economic and political power, were fascists. Their children were fascists. Their grandchildren were fascists wearing progressive masks. And their great grandchildren are fascists who've taken off their masks.

When the bastard said he left everything "tied up and well tied up" he wasn't kidding.

[–] ASDraptor@lemmy.autism.place 1 points 1 day ago

Sure mate. I guess you know half or more of spain population to say so...

What you apparently forgot to mention is that even in Germany or Italy, where they "cleaned" the place of fascism are dealing with a raise in fascism. Maybe your vision is slightly biased.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, but he did kill, or drive into exile or poverty and political irrelevance anyone who didn’t share his views.

Those people were also Spanish. The ones you condemn for what they did to your ancestors. So shouldn't you be in favor of that?

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Who the fuck would be in the favour of fascists..?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I'm just going with your reasoning.

So there are good Spanish people that are still descended from the evil people who did things to your ancestors and they don't deserve contempt?

Because that goes against everything else you've said.

[–] locuester@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Other fascists?