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[–] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Does Jesus have a gender tho? As stated above, Jesus has a fully human body and nature (or else you are deemed a heretic by the council of Chalcedon). He is described as a man and several churches and rulers have historically claimed to hold a piece of his foreskin, so he must've had a penis. Therefore:

  • Either Jesus was agender despite having a penis, therefore penis doesn't imply male gender or
  • Jesus was male. So either:
    • Jesus and God don't have the same gender, so they aren't the same entity, which the councils of Nicea and Chalcedon would deem a heresy, or
    • God can manifest as male or agender, making Them genderfluid.
[–] praise_idleness@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Jesus and The Father is not just the same entity. From what I understand it's like water: liquid water is water. Ice is water but it's not a same thing as (liquid) water.

The Father is just something above gender. Jesus is a man.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago

It's also been mentioned in other parts of this thread, but the holy foreskin has been considered an important relic, and there are accounts of many kings like Charlemagne having owned it.

[–] zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago

I know people like to call the holy trinity absurd because of the multiple entities being 1 entity, but I would like to direct your attention to plural people. Holy-trinity-like situations actually occur in real people. Even with different genders.

[–] Johanno@feddit.org 1 points 3 days ago (3 children)
[–] groet@feddit.org 7 points 3 days ago

The holy trinity, the father, the son and the holy spirit are the same entity.

[–] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Then I guess this makes you an Arian heretic. /s

[–] stingpie@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Don't know why people are down voting this. That's canonically correct in the Jewish an Muslim traditions.