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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I don't know the name for the kind of bias you're expressing there - maybe you do - where you assume that anything that isn't overtly supportive of your POV must be opposition, because it's a binary world where everybody who eosn't actively agree with you probably disagrees. That's the mentality of cults like MAGA and is super common on reddit. I really wish we could avoid it here.

Regarding adultification - it's definitely not just a racism issue. For example, trying minors as adults in court is something I've always been adamantly against. To me it's like saying what the hell let's try shoplifters as arsonists, because fuck reality. But my real issue here is threadjacking - we're talking about some crazy 18-yo with a machete, and somebody postulates that hypothetically if he were black there would be racism happening. Well fine, how about posting an instance of that and we'll discuss it. You could say if the kid were gay maybe the headline would say "Gay teen" because maybe headlines are like that I dunno - and that would be annoying because his sexual orientation shouldn't matter, but why should we turn the discussion to that?

Anyway, on the black adultification - here's the first result I get googling "teen arrested": a shooting in Orlando - spoiler, the suspect is black, and he's a "teen" not a "black male". Oh well. Gotta be cherry picking right? No, like I said, first thing that came up. It's just one data point so it means nothing - but it's more data than anybody has given for the theory that if the kid this thread is about were black, the headline would be different.

The irony is, my real irritation was with the threadjacking. Some white kid goes apeshit with a machete and somehow we're discussing racism. I feel like a European complaining about irrelevant mentions of Trump (which I think is a valid complaint, I'm sick of the motherfucker). If somebody wants to discuss black adultification, which might be a great subject, they can post a study or an article or something and I'll look at it like everybody else, because actual information would be interesting. I'm just not interested in somebody saying "Hypothetically if this situation were different, something I want to complain about would happen."