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There is no point in getting them to change their vote though.
Srsly, if you want people in your life to actually help Palestine, there are much better ways. Maybe encourage them to donate to gofundmes on gazafunds.com or something. Go to a protest together. Tell them about the BDS movement.
But on the other hand, why do any of that when you could instead take the option of antagonizing them about their electoral choices. Really piss them off, get them to stop taking you seriously. Burn bridges and shrink your sphere of influence within your community. That’s what will really be helpful to the people of Palestine.
I can’t fucking wait for election season to be over
If they can't take genocide seriously they don't deserve to be in my circle.
They should have enough of a conscience to not vote for a genocide denier AND support BDS, donate to Gaza, etc.
Talking about whether these people "deserve" to talk to you when the question is how to make political progress wrt Gaza is fucking ridiculous. No one is asking who should have the honor of your presence, they are asking what to do to fix the problem that you see as disqualifying people from having Pete association privileges.
If you want to do agitation but can't tolerate that most of the people talking to you hold the most normalized views of their society, let me save you the effort and inform you that you should quit.
I'd rather pick my battles. Not worth spending time trying to convince everyone.
That’s exactly why people are saying you don’t need to convince people to not vote Kamala. You should try to convince them to help Palestine in other ways.
Seriously, like every two years everyone in the USA just turns into a Vulcan going through Pon Farr
But for elections
Here's the thing: if they back the genociders, I want them dead. I no longer see them as countrymen; I don't even see them as humans occupying the same strata of the Animal Kingdom as I do anymore. This is beyond 'opp', this is 'existential fucking foe' shit.
I mean the hope would be to convince enough of them to hold their vote hostage to make America stop killing people. Even for ten days.
I think things are going to get real bad if the democrats learn genocide is completely fine.
I don’t think we can convince them it’s not through voting. (Obviously we need to protest more and do direct action)
Sure, but I don't think voting for them helps in that effort
Both sides of the American political system have known that for decades.
Not like this. They used to hide things like the My Lai Massacre or lie about WMDs or obfuscate what the troops were doing