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I really do feel like I'm taking crazy pills with libs this election. The last two they at least had a bloodless rationale to the "lesser of two evils" rhetoric.

But this is genocide, the canonical Worst Thing You Can DO! I know many just believe that it's not a genocide at all because Palestinian civilians are all Hamas and just subhuman or that the videos published by official IOF channels are all deepfaked by the hungry ghost of Nasrallah. But then just FUCKING SAY IT and then we can call you a genocide denier and we'll know where we stand!

What I can't get is that many do seem to agree it's a genocide and Kamala is complicit. But then they lesser evil by going "Well if we don't vote then Trump will do bad things to trans people here."

Like Fuck You! You scheming, gaslighting bloody handed monster!

Either this is just a disingenuous argument to get your team in power or to maintain liberal civility politics, in which case double Fuck You that you think people are abstract political tools.

Or, you actually believe this, and the freedom of an LGBT person here outweighs the lives of 2 million people, many LGBT, who happen to have had the extreme misfortune to be born 5 cm over the border and thus outside your ability to feel empathy.

In which case Triple Fuck You, because you are, somehow, more of a fascist than Trump. At least Trump is too incoherent to make a complete argument for fascist policy!

I'm going mad, I really am. How can people be streamed genocide live on CNN and just say "well, I guess we're ok with genocide now!" Is the US public even human?! Even the fucking Germans had the good sense to pretend to look guilty after they lost.

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[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 52 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

But then they lesser evil by going "Well if we don't vote then Trump will do bad things to trans people here."

I don't know if they understand how much it looks like they use our LGBTQ+ comrades as a human shield. "Either become complicit in our genocide of the browns, or we'll let our controlled opposition kill disadvantaged subjects-of-empire here". In a climate where the primary slander against you in the first place is that you are unintelligible from a Republican, when the secondary slander against you is that you're forming a uniparty with right-wingers, why would you phrase a threat like this that only makes it sound more like you peckerwood yankees are in bed together?

I fuckin hate Amerikans, I swear to god. Whatever happens to us, we deserve if Kamala gets in. Hell, even if she doesn't.

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 33 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I swear I am more JDPON pilled every day. Not because I don't think the USA has revolutionary potential but because dear god someone needs to end this miserable nation ASAP.

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 30 points 3 weeks ago

Not because I don't think the USA has revolutionary potential but because dear god someone needs to end this miserable nation ASAP.

I've been in a state of both for the past four years, and honestly? I'm not betting on that feeling subsiding anytime soon.

[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 26 points 3 weeks ago

That makes perfect sense. The Democrats (maybe intentionally?) keep POC, women, queer, and trans folk on such an insecure position that they never feel safe. Instead of making drastic change while they are in power, the Dems only make changes that can instantly be undone by their Republican partners.