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UN secretary general visits Russia for BRICS summit despite Kyiv's criticism
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this post was submitted on 23 Oct 2024
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Because Israel attacked them and has repeatedly escalated the conflict over the past 12 months.
Gaza was described as the largest open air prison by experts around the world.
That's an incredibly disgusting generalization to say regarding an oppressed population. These people are being isolated and oppressedfrom the world due to their much more powerful and well-funded neighbors and you're just sitting there saying "Yeah they're not the kind of people I would want to let in".
Hamas was funded and propped up thanks in large part to Israel.
Hezbollah started as a direct result of Israeli aggression in the 80s and 90s. Israel occupied the south of Lebanon throughout the 90s and Hezbollah harassed them so much they were forced to leave. This conflict is Israel's second chance on this whole settlement project.
So why don't Jordan and Egypt have open borders with Gaza and the west bank then? What's the deal there? Why have the Palestinians never been a sorbed I to the populations of the other regions countries, like the Jews kicked out of these countries where in Israël?
And about not letting Palestinians in.. this is not me saying it, it's what the other Arab countries are actively doing.. while saying they care for the faith of their brethren.
And yeah, Hezbollah and Israel have been shooting at each other for decades. Fascist state government vs antisemitic terrorist organisations.
Israël is filled with people that left where they lived be cause of either anti semitism or the pull to the settler colonial project. An easy solution there is not.
Why do Palestinians have to leave for Jordan and Egypt and why are Jordan ang Egypt expected to take them? Israel could just let them live in their homes like any decent person would expect.
Anti-Semitism because of Israel's actions. If you're a state known for killing and displacing Arabs, you don't expect Arab's to be nice to you. Israel has dragged Jewish reputation through the mud through their actions.
There literally is. Stop killing and displacing Arabs. It's not that hard.
They don't have to leave perse.. but they could use these borders to trade and travel.. but these borders are also shut.. for the good of the Palestinians or something...
And yeah, leave them in the west bank and Gaza.
Antisemitism because of Israel.. some yeah, most "just because"... Bit silly to ascribe it all to that.
And hating Jews because the israeli government you associate them with, is doing wrong shit, leads to more violence..maybe even Jews that take their stuff and move to Israel. These will not be the most open minded well adjusted people.
And yes they should stop killing people. But how do we make the peace structural and not just a reprieve until the next flare up.
Their entire system of government is only allowed at the discretion of Israel, and we all know how Israel treats them. So they can't leave, they can't self govern, they can't extract the resources of their own land. What on earth do you expect them to do?
I never said the hatred was justified. But if Israel didn't do what it has been doing for the past 70+ years then the Jewish reputation wouldn't be as dogshit as it is now.
How do you make peace? Stop killing people would be a good start don't you think?
Yeah, I think Palestinians should have the self governance. 2 state solution should be done properly. I don't think the neighboring countries will allow it, but we will see.
But then many worry (including me) if the Palestinians end up putting the same type of people in charge that will preach revenge and hatred only to drag them into another war we will be back here again. It's not as if that is unprecedented.
Israël holds the power and they have the responsibility to be better to the Palestinians than they are and help them become a proper state and self govern.
I would argue for a single state solution. A 2 state solution would just foster an us vs them mentality. All western countries have laws allowing anyone of any ethnicity or religion to hold elected positions in government and other public service roles. Why should this be any different?
Hamas was propped up by Israel to delegtimize the Palestinian people. If they don't want the messages of revenge and radicalization to be so powerful then like Canada and the US did with the Natives, Israel needs to immediately begin reparations. It's never going to happen given Israel's current culture and leadership. But this violence won't ever stop.