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[–] Resonosity@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

The Israeli government is being fascist, and has been for a long time. Thank you for calling it out. Sad to see the down votes because Palestinians have been locked in Israel's cage with no freedom for decades, and Lebanon is next. Hopefully society starts to shift in its outlook and complicity.

You hit the nail on the head too. So many people cannot support Democrats during this election because although they call for freedom and justice, they also call for arms transfers and no repurcussions for Netanyahu countlessly dissolving freedom and justice for Palestinians.

Voting for Democrats, unfortunately, boils down to "rights for me, not for thee", and the only difference between that sentiment and what you might find in Conservatives is that Democrats hold that distinction between all Americans and those from other countries. Conservatives hold that between different groups of Americans.

Really sours any hope I had for Kamala overtaking Biden

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Israel gov is apartheid and fascist. Still, we exist in the world, and someone will be elected president of the United States. A person here can either vote strategically, or they can abstain and potentially help the worst option win.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh I will always tell people to not vote for Trump. There is doing damage to our international reputation as the leader of the free world, and then there is complete and utter dismantling and destruction of the free world, us included.

I will vote and it won't be Trump, but I also want Democrats to earn my vote. The cognitive dissonance has to stop.

[–] RippleEffect@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

We're out of time. At least for president, there are no other viable candidates for this cycle. Down ballot, you should be researching your candidates thoroughly.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

The downvotes are probably from bots.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

The ruling class is taking advantage of our different time preferences. If you expect to live long enough to die to climate change, then you're "privileged".

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Trump and so many of his zionist first supporters have backed Trump specifically because of "rising anti semitism" in US. University protests against genocide should have been handled like Kent State, to them. Biden/Blinken have been ineffective in getting ceasefires, possibly intentionally ineffective. But that is partly because Netanyahu prefers Trump, and Trump promises to fully support "finishing the job of genocide". It's unfair to critizide Dems for Israel, when US is bipartisanly Israel first political/state rule.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

People got shot at Kent State. Why are you calling for protesters to be shot???

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings

[–] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

University protests against genocide should have been handled like Kent State, to them.

Their syntax is wonky, but they're saying Trump's supporters would have liked the protests handled like Kent State.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

Ah ok. I didn’t understand then. Thanks!

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

There were national guard snipers deployed to, I think, an Indiana University protest.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

The US is bipartisan when it comes to Israeli support because Democrats haven't broken from that bipartisan tradition.

Once Democrats do, it is no longer bipartisan.

I don't expect Conservatives to do this given what you've said, so Democrats foot the bill.

Biden has in fact already called for the cease of arms transfers, but that policy goes into effect after the election finishes. If Biden can call for it after the election, he can call for it today.

There is no reason why the Commander in Chief cannot outlaw the transfer of weapons and ammunition to Israel. We've already broken one of our laws that prevents this.