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In October 1776, the Public Universal Friend contracted an epidemic disease and was bedridden and near death with a high fever. Their family summoned a doctor from Attleboro, six miles away, and neighbors kept up a death-watch at night. The fever broke after several days. The Friend later reported that [deadname redacted] had died, receiving revelations from God through two archangels who proclaimed there was "Room, Room, Room, in the many Mansions of eternal glory for Thee and for everyone". The Friend further said that [deadname redacted]'s soul had ascended to heaven and the body had been reanimated with a new spirit charged by God with preaching his word, that of the "Publick Universal Friend", describing that name in the words of Isaiah 62:2 as "a new name which the mouth of the Lord hath named".

From that time on, the Friend refused to answer to their deadname, ignoring or chastising those who insisted on using it. When visitors asked if it was the name of the person they were addressing, the Friend simply quoted Luke 23:3 ("thou sayest it").β€Š Identifying as neither male nor female, the Friend asked not to be referred to with gendered pronouns. Followers respected these wishes; they referred only to "the Public Universal Friend" or short forms such as "the Friend" or "P.U.F.", and many avoided gender-specific pronouns even in private diaries. When someone asked if the Friend was male or female, the preacher replied "I am that I am", saying the same thing to a man who criticized the Friend's manner of dress (adding, in the latter case, "there is nothing indecent or improper in my dress or appearance; I am not accountable to mortals").

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[–] Anvil_Lavigne@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

@ashinadash@hexbear.net

re : carpenter

i hesitate to call any of his other movies shit after vampires cringe like sure prince of darkness puts me to sleep but at least the concept is kinda cool. halloween is honestly high art in comparison. even his weaker films tend to have something to enjoy but vampires is where the macho bs brainworms truly took over. it cannot be overstated just how aggressively awful it is. like just thinking about the fact that i ever gave it another chance makes my blood boil agony-turbo

anyway yeah i'm familiar with most of his work but the thing & they live are the only ones i ever feel like revisiting anymore.

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Can't lie, this has made me hestitant to ever watch another Carpenter. You mean there's worse shit than Prince of Darkness out there? No thanks! And this vampires description makes me sad agony-shrooms

[–] MusicOwl@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I just really like the thing and they live meow-floppy

And the fog for the ambience

[–] magi@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
  • The Thing
  • They Live
  • The Fog

These would be my picks, he has a few others if you turn the brain off, For example, I enjoy Halloween for the atmosphere and slow build but the plot isn't up to much and there is only so much you can do with the set up. His other movies can be very mixed, though his movie soundtracks I enjoy too.

[–] MusicOwl@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I love how the soundtrack he wrote for They Live is just one riff, and it works.

[–] magi@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah his soundtracks are pretty stripped back, with some synth here or there too which I love. Escape from New York has a good soundtrack too, and The Thing he collaborated with Ennio Morricone and it's also pretty distinct (I have a load of them and their expanded versions)

[–] MusicOwl@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The soundtrack for the thing got a β€œworst soundtrack award,” which amuses me greatly. Critics hated that movie so much when it came out and I don’t know why.

[–] magi@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

They hated it for a variety of reasons, many thought it would be in a similar vein to ET and "friendly aliens", the horror and gore of the film was seen as over the top back when it released and also it was seen as an unnecessary remake which it is in part. It takes the story ideas and concepts of The Thing from Another World and ramps up the horror and gore lmao (easter egg of that movie is in Halloween) It's one of my favourite horror/scifi movies

[–] MusicOwl@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s one of the only movies I can body horror for, and I don’t even know why. It’s just done so well with practical effects! niko-wonderous

I also sometimes quote the β€œif you guys have the time, I would rather not spend the rest of this winter TIED TO THIS FUCKING COUCH” line.

[–] magi@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's up there at the top for me, I love body horror, the fly is also all sorts of messed up and another remake plus the 80s remake of the blob is fairly decent too.

[–] MusicOwl@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

The Blob is fantastic, as is The Fly! Classics of practical effects. One thing I noted rewatching The Fly recently is how sad that movie is. It is just about someone close to you falling ill and slowly passing.

[–] magi@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah you feel bad for him in the end

[–] Anvil_Lavigne@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

i mean i wouldn't worry about it too much. loads of more interesting filmmakers in the world :3

horror is something of a special interest of mine which ig is why i used to feel kinda weird not loving all these dudes unconditionally that people are raving about constantly... but i've noticed that quite a lot of horror fans (online at least) seem somewhat allergic to films outside of their niche so maybe it's a matter of exposure.

these days i think all my favourite horror (beyond like goofy b-schlock that largely works because it doesn't) is up there precisely because they're not just straightforward genre films. & yeah i definitely have an appreciation for the italian stuff but for that i blame my habitual self medication meow-coffee a good portion of it is connected to the uh adult cinema of the time & i get that not everyone finds stylish but nonsensical sleaze cathartic.

i hope i'm not coming across too insufferable here kitty-cri-texas i'd be happy to provide recs should you ever find yourself in need of some cat-trans

[–] magi@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

i get that not everyone finds stylish but nonsensical sleaze cathartic.

I have issues with me being ace and also some of the needless titillation or glorifying SA that can ruin the film for me. Re-animator would be a perfect example of this or Basket Case. I've been into horror since I was a kid, I watched Nightmare on Elm street when I was 6 and I've been a horror fan since but I do have issues with a lot of the genre even though I can turn my brain off for some things I find a lot of modern stuff doesn't cut it as much due to being pg-13 or feel like it.

[–] Anvil_Lavigne@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

i believe i must have seen my first horror movie (puppet master) around that age too. definitely well before i started first grade lol.

yeah i used to be kind of a miserable asshole all the time & in retrospect i think i kept seeking out more & more vile stuff because it was a way for me to process trauma from the comfort of my bed. i'm in a much better place now so a lot of the shit that used to not bother me has become a hard pass.

while it still remains a special interest i'd say the way i engage with it has changed p drastically over the years.

[–] magi@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

I like the first few puppet masters, I enjoyed Torch ^^ but yeah I watched all the Freddy films, Hellraisers a firm favourite and a load of others. I like the over the top gorey stuff.. or psychological horror.

I had trauma growing up too with what was going on at home but I still managed to sneak a watch at most horror my family would bring in until I could rent things/ pirate myself. Plus I'd watch nearly every horror/sci fi film on TV when I could. I have things I can look past and logic out but some stuff I flatly can't watch. I tend to watch the classics from time to time (September/October through November will generally be Horror season) and if I find some bad b movie that doesn't cross the lines then I'll watch those too as those can be great lol

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] magi@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

IKR could have been good except for the SA that's played for laughs

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Also to be real, when Doctor Funnyman is playing around with reanimating corpses into states of excruciating pain and such, it should be framed as fuckin awful/terrifying but it seems like the movie wants to have it as a gag. Also even though it's thankfully all animatronics, that's too much animal abuse tbh, which again the film kinda thinks is a joke?

[–] magi@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah with these things it's a fine line and I can turn my brain off to some things but others stack up. Re-animator is a black comedy so I get it but I think it goes into tasteless territory for me and unfortunately you do get that with the genre.

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

cw violence etcA cop getting blasted because he thinks he's a cowboy and getting his bones shoved into an exoskeleton to be a cop-bot is good black comedy. Resurrecting a cat that's been hit by a car is not good black comedy, Re-animator scriptwriter desolate

[–] magi@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

cw violenceYeah I enjoyed the black comedy in RoboCop and the brutality, shame it's a cop film.

Animal cruelty isn't fun.. I don't enjoy when things touch on it either.. I have no issues with that scene in robocop tho.

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

brow Oh yeah? Where are all of these "interesting filmmakers"? All I'm seein' is straight white boys...

I do not really have horror films I like so far, albeit I've mostly only seen popular slop. They only write novels about the kind of horror I like, it seems...

"Adult cinema" that's like, not quite Lucio Fulci but like, porn volcel-judge blegh...

[–] Anvil_Lavigne@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

perhaps you jest but avoiding that particular category in perpetuity probably wouldn't be super difficult thonk-trans like queer cinema alone comes with such a large catalogue that some folks will routinely watch nothing but all thru june.

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

queer cinema alone comes with such a large catalogue

Oh yeah? brow And what happens to that catalogue if you subtract Gay Dude Stuff from it?

[–] Anvil_Lavigne@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

i doubt my interest in that stuff is any higher than yours & it's never been a problem. if anything it's the lesbean flicks that seem far more ubiquitous.

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

brow

I have a few of those sittin' on my shelf and a few more earmarked, but the total is less than 20... you got boatloads?

[–] Anvil_Lavigne@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Oh nice, rad. Some of these I have already, but I simply wouldn't put Mulholland Drive in a list like this. Perhaps I'm built different.

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