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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.crimedad.work/post/138601

“That son of a bitch, Bibi Netanyahu, he’s a bad guy,” said Biden privately, according to Woodward. “He’s a bad fucking guy!”

Reads like a bloody Onion article.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 147 points 4 weeks ago (99 children)

Maybe stop sending them billions in weapons then, eh?

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 32 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (6 children)

In an election year? That's political suicide in the US to Harris by proxy, given how many people are brainwashed over there.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 13 points 4 weeks ago

He had the chance to legitimize the option. They have the evidence, and they have the laws. He treated both of those like chopped liver and that was that. He's locked in now.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

The majority of Americans are opposed to sending weapons to Israel. Even the majority of Republicans.

Supporting Israel for political gain is a vastly overstated argument. It exists to justify sending weapons to Israel.

It is very similar to the previous claim that Biden should not have been replaced because he was the incumbent.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The majority doesn't matter because of gerrymandering and the electoral college. AFAIK the majority of Republicans are not opposed to it. A simple majority that might exist does not matter if the other absolute majority of the other options is bigger. You are also acting as if it wouldn't be politicized and propagandized if suddenly one group started coming out against Israel, which would significantly affect polling from independents and break away republicans. Politics are a reactive environment, not a static one.

Support for Israel has been very high historically in the US. It is only recently where it has declined significantly, and not really enough to make it not be the elephant in the room. And I can assure you, any relation you see between this issue and Biden not being replaced is PEBKAC, that involves a host of very different issues that you are only simplifying down to be similar in your head. For one, the change from Biden didn't result in another foreign state, specially one that has experience and weight with influencing US and western institutions (AIPAC ring any bells?), trying to influence US elections, rather, it dismantled the efforts from the foreign state already involved in election manipulation that were singularly focused on Biden, forcing them into disarray.

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[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

They didn’t stop to think: what if people don’t want to vote for genocide? Oh well, we won’t give them that option because genocide is an American value. See: native Americans.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Sometimes I wonder if Blinken dreams he could back to the times of the Wild West just so that he could shoot Indians and their food supply from the top of his high train.

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[–] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago

More lies to make the rubes think he is against the genocide. He has done this many times before and its always utterly meaningless.

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