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“This isn’t going to stop,” Allen told the New York Times. “Art is dead, dude. It’s over. A.I. won. Humans lost.”

"But I still want to get paid for it."

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[–] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That’s not what I’m saying though. It’s more that I think arguing for better protections under IP law is akin to participating in get out the vote campaigns for democrats. If the goal is to better conditions for working people including artists, neither of those avenues will lead you anywhere.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Again.

Post your your supposed "solutions" to advocate for.

Otherwise you still read like you're a treat printer enjoyer that wants everyone to stop complaining, no matter how the planet burns.

[–] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You’re only reading me that way because you’re lumping my arguments in with all the pro AI nonsense that’s out there. I honestly don’t care for any of the slop AI models tend to produce and it’s not reasonable to assume that I do.

Also my arguments stand on their own. Even if there are no near term solutions to the plight of artists that doesn’t mean reifying the concept of intellectual property is worth anything.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Also my arguments stand on their own.

Then stop bullshitting and actually provide what I asked for. Post your supposed "solutions" to advocate for.

[–] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That’s irrelevant to the legitimacy of my argument. I can tell you rhino horn isn’t going to fix your love life without telling you what will. That said I’m an ML. I don’t believe most artists will be fairly compensated for their labor until we can actually abolish capitalism.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That’s irrelevant to the legitimacy of my argument.

You DID NOT provide ANY complete argument. Are there no solutions that you had to propose to begin with?

Thought so.

[–] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean if you don’t want to read what I wrote you can claim I never wrote anything at all I guess.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You told everyone to stop complaining and vaguely hinted at "solutions" that you did not provide.

Maybe those "solutions" aren't there because you fucking couldn't think of them.

[–] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You told everyone to stop complaining

I never said people should stop complaining about their own exploitation. You’re arguing with yourself at this point.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Being an evasive coward saying effectively nothing that you're actually committing to is just being a techbro-apologist clown at this point.

/r/futurology needs you back at the circus.

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That said I’m an ML.

You are no comrade of mine if you're running defense for theftboxes, their enjoyers, and/or their hypercapitalist creators. I stand ten toes down on soundly rejecting that claim of yours.

[–] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’m not running defense for capitalists. If you think that I am you’re completely missing the point.

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago

You defend their treats. Take this handhiding techbro gaslighter bullshit and fuck off with it